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EDIT: yes i did have defenders code. and i am highly disapointed people who aint in 25 mans can get just about the same armor as i can being in 25 mans. seeing all epics are within 10-20 armor of each other, and blues aint far behind on some slots.
I am highly disappointed by the fact that there are very few people who haven't done at least a few 25mans. I could join PuG's every day of the week just by sitting in Dalaran and waiting to see LFM's in trade chat. Badly geared, badly prepared, bad players are getting carried through 25 mans easily. Hopefully the next raid zone will be a step up and require most of the group to be fully decked out in 10/25man epics to have a chance.