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Hi. Why a lot top rogues in armory take both of these talents? Do they stack? Because in FF description is written that it does not stack with any other movement speed increasing effects.
Do you spend all your time stealthed, then?
Camouflage is not a speed increasing effect. Remember that when you stealth, you get slowed movement speed, Camo simply makes that slowed movement speed less pronounced. So it's not a speed increasing effect, it's a reduction in the speed slowing effect. So yes, they do stack - you can get about 98% movement speed in stealth with the 2 talents maxed.
robertlofthouse wrote:
Camouflage is not a speed increasing effect. Remember that when you stealth, you get slowed movement speed, Camo simply makes that slowed movement speed less pronounced. So it's not a speed increasing effect, it's a reduction in the speed slowing effect. So yes, they do stack - you can get about 98% movement speed in stealth with the 2 talents maxed.
It's 97.5%! Get it right!
This is like Rogue 101, noob!@
(JK, luff u)
Overlord Theophany wrote:
robertlofthouse wrote:
Camouflage is not a speed increasing effect. Remember that when you stealth, you get slowed movement speed, Camo simply makes that slowed movement speed less pronounced. So it's not a speed increasing effect, it's a reduction in the speed slowing effect. So yes, they do stack - you can get about 98% movement speed in stealth with the 2 talents maxed.
It's 97.5%! Get it right!
This is like Rogue 101, noob!@
(JK, luff u)
Bah, Theorycrafter indeed, it's 97.75% ... *presses his I-WIN button* ;-D
(I learned that in Rogue 201, having graduated Rogue 101)
Edited, Jan 13th 2009 7:35am by robertlofthouse
Get some rocket boots and move at 250%. Rogue 301.
Banatu wrote:
Get some rocket boots and move at 250%. Rogue 301.
Actually, that's more like PvP 101 - you don't need to be a rogue to use rocket boots ;-)
robertlofthouse wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
robertlofthouse wrote:
Camouflage is not a speed increasing effect. Remember that when you stealth, you get slowed movement speed, Camo simply makes that slowed movement speed less pronounced. So it's not a speed increasing effect, it's a reduction in the speed slowing effect. So yes, they do stack - you can get about 98% movement speed in stealth with the 2 talents maxed.
It's 97.5%! Get it right!
This is like Rogue 101, noob!@
(JK, luff u)
Bah, Theorycrafter indeed, it's 97.75% ... *presses his I-WIN button* ;-D
(I learned that in Rogue 201, having graduated Rogue 101)
Edited, Jan 13th 2009 7:35am by robertlofthouse
Pfft. Obviously I didn't pass Rogue 201.
Theo - as a die-hard Habs fan I'm having a hard time taking you seriously now :)
veena wrote:
Theo - as a die-hard Habs fan I'm having a hard time taking you seriously now :)
As a Wings fan since I was five years old (i.e. 19 years--and yes, that included a lot of their "Dead Wings" era), I can safely tell you to go **** yourself now.
Overlord Theophany wrote:
As a Wings fan since I was five years old (i.e. 19 years--and yes, that included a lot of their "Dead Wings" era), I can safely tell you to go @#%^ yourself now. 
19 years makes you a puppy :) I've been a Habs fan for 45...
Detroit has been good over the past dozen years - I'll give you that - but of course you needed a Canadiens coach (Scotty Bowman) to win three of the four most recent cups...
Edit: Forgot to mention that I have the Habs logo as a tattoo.
Edited, Jan 14th 2009 2:52pm by veena
veena wrote:
Forgot to mention that I have the Habs logo as a tattoo.
Avatar > Tattoo
Everyone can see an avatar. Not everyone can see your tattoo, especially since it's on your *****.
What? It's derailed already. Don't look at me that way.
veena wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
As a Wings fan since I was five years old (i.e. 19 years--and yes, that included a lot of their "Dead Wings" era), I can safely tell you to go @#%^ yourself now.
19 years makes you a puppy :) I've been a Habs fan for 45...
Detroit has been good over the past dozen years - I'll give you that - but of course you needed a Canadiens coach (Scotty Bowman) to win three of the four most recent cups...
Edit: Forgot to mention that I have the Habs logo as a tattoo.
That may have been the thing that fueled our most recent run, but when you look at the pure talent and experience on our team--more rings on more players than any other team in the league--you really can't say it's just because of Bowman. I love the guy, and he's a great coach, but he's not the sole source of our success.
'96 was actually when the Wings returned (though it could be argued that it was '88 when we won the division for the first time in 23 years) to the big time, and while that was one of the first years that Bowman was there, it was also the year that we got Larionov and Fetisov to complete the Russian Five. That was the year we won 62 games (a NHL record), but lost to the Avalanche in the Conference Finals.
I know you're giving me and other Wings fans a hard time for "needing" Bowman for our success, but Yzerman and the Russian Five were much bigger instruments in that success, IMO.
And when you look at our current roster and the pure skill that we have right now, it's not hard to see why we're sitting at #3 in points in the entire NHL (and why we spanked the Sharks 6-0).
Edit: BTW, it almost hurts me physically to say that we're going to have to let Hossa go at the end of this season. Zetterberg's contract is up this off-season, and he was signed at an incredibly low rate for how he's been playing. Unless he takes a substantial pay cut, Hossa is going to be walking at the end of the season.
Edited, Jan 14th 2009 12:34pm by Theophany
Overlord Theophany wrote:
That may have been the thing that fueled our most recent run, but when you look at the pure talent and experience on our team--more rings on more players than any other team in the league--you really can't say it's just because of Bowman. I love the guy, and he's a great coach, but he's not the sole source of our success.
'96 was actually when the Wings returned (though it could be argued that it was '88 when we won the division for the first time in 23 years) to the big time, and while that was one of the first years that Bowman was there, it was also the year that we got Larionov and Fetisov to complete the Russian Five. That was the year we won 62 games (a NHL record), but lost to the Avalanche in the Conference Finals.
I know you're giving me and other Wings fans a hard time for "needing" Bowman for our success, but Yzerman and the Russian Five were much bigger instruments in that success, IMO.
And when you look at our current roster and the pure skill that we have right now, it's not hard to see why we're sitting at #3 in points in the entire NHL (and why we spanked the Sharks 6-0).
'96 was actually when the Wings returned (though it could be argued that it was '88 when we won the division for the first time in 23 years) to the big time, and while that was one of the first years that Bowman was there, it was also the year that we got Larionov and Fetisov to complete the Russian Five. That was the year we won 62 games (a NHL record), but lost to the Avalanche in the Conference Finals.
I know you're giving me and other Wings fans a hard time for "needing" Bowman for our success, but Yzerman and the Russian Five were much bigger instruments in that success, IMO.
And when you look at our current roster and the pure skill that we have right now, it's not hard to see why we're sitting at #3 in points in the entire NHL (and why we spanked the Sharks 6-0).
Yeah, I'm just messing with you about Bowman. The Wings have had great players in recent years.
Ugh makes me ashamed to be a proud leafs fan....
Not to re-rail the thread or anything...
But I think when 3.0 first went live and they didn't seem to "stack" (obviously there were some bugs back then).
Edited, Jan 24th 2009 2:19pm by angryempath
But I think when 3.0 first went live and they didn't seem to "stack" (obviously there were some bugs back then).
Edited, Jan 24th 2009 2:19pm by angryempath
Overlord Theophany wrote:
veena wrote:
Theo - as a die-hard Habs fan I'm having a hard time taking you seriously now :)
As a Wings fan since I was five years old (i.e. 19 years--and yes, that included a lot of their "Dead Wings" era), I can safely tell you to go @#%^ yourself now.
As a Hawks fan, I was a little worried after I saw the Wings put on a clinic at the Winter Classic. Then I remembered that half of your team would be retiring in the next few years, and everything was okay.
Time is on our side!
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
Demea wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
veena wrote:
Theo - as a die-hard Habs fan I'm having a hard time taking you seriously now :)
As a Wings fan since I was five years old (i.e. 19 years--and yes, that included a lot of their "Dead Wings" era), I can safely tell you to go @#%^ yourself now.
As a Hawks fan, I was a little worried after I saw the Wings put on a clinic at the Winter Classic. Then I remembered that half of your team would be retiring in the next few years, and everything was okay.
Time is on our side!
As a Wings fan that was at the Winter Classic (and who is from Chicago), I'll let you know how much I was gloating at the Winter Classic:
A lot.
It's OK, though; Zetterberg and Datsyuk are still relatively young, as is Conklin. Really the only old farts we have (though they're pretty significant) are Lidstrom, Osgood, Holmstrom, and Chelios.
I count >35 as being old; then again, Chelios is old enough to be the father of most of the Wings, sooooo...
Most of our team will still be playing in 5 years, and with the amount of cash we'll be freeing up when Chelios/Osgood/Holmstrom/Lidstrom retire, we'll be able to get right back into it, or just bring some of our guys up from the Griffins.
You guys have Kane, Khabibulin, Toews, and Campbell. That's about it. The main reason you couldn't pull a win against us is because you didn't crash the net at all from outside shots, and you didn't get any decent breakaways.
Experience usually wins over talent, but experience and talent always win over just talent.
You'll have better luck next year, after we lose Hossa.
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