elemental suggestions (or any for that matter)Follow

After getting burnt out on my 80 death knight, I decided to log onto my other toons. One of them is a 61 shaman. The issue I notice now is that I burn through mana at an alarming rate. I put my talent points into elemental.

I just did a ramparts run with 2 death knights, 64, 62, and a 61 lock, and I was last in damage. the gear i have is mostly quest greens/blues.

any suggestions for talents, rotations?

I think I have gotten bored with my death knight because I see so many people looking for heals and ranged dps, it seems like there is a lack of it on my server. it also seems like the death knight rush is mostly over with now. I just did a /who, out of 20 people, only 7 are death knights. so, it seems they are leveling off quite a bit.

At the suggestion of a guildmate, I went enhancement, and wow, what a difference. I am no longer burning through mana. Feral spirits is my 'oh crap' button, I never knew just how ungodly those two spirit wolves were until i started to use them. I know i have two talent points in improved healing wave that really should go in elemental weapons, but I just do not feel like shelling out the gold for it now (at 15 g per respect). how effective is dual wielding weapons for shaman vs a 2 hander?

I know the gear i have is 'mixed' still, and not the greatest. It has been a while since I have used a shaman, how viable would it be to use him as main heals in underbog, mana tombs, etc, etc with this talent setup? I feel as long as people were not stupid, it should go alright. my main concern is the mana pool, from what i remember, shaman did not have a good spell to mana ratio. even though I managed to main heal a furnace run, as elemental, i think the totem of wrath helped out a bit, but there were still some situations that were a bit close.

going full resto, how is that for leveling and main healing? is that viable for both, or just main healing, or off healing for that matter? unless i am missing something, shaman do not have an instant heal nor do they have any hots.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Archimonde&n=Alomo

Lvl 61, he probably had issue with mana because at that level, he hasn't got watershield yet.

Psst, someone forgot to read the patch notes.

Not that effective????

It's a constant 38(at level 61) mana every 5 seconds for 10 minutes. How is that not effective? That's a better MP5 regen than most gear gives at level 80. Here nice little blue trinket from icecrown that only gives 22 mp5.

At 61 elemental you should have Thunderstorm, which is another mana regen move, it gives you 8% mana every cast(it's better that you don't hit the mobs with this move, because tanks hate knockback).

You should also should have specced unrelenting storm for even more mana regen.

Let's not forget the mana spring totem.

I've been leveling my shaman recently as well, and am currently 65, in instances I've never had an issue with mana. So my question is what gear you have, how you are specced and what are you casting to make you go out of mana. Are you spamming shocks? because that's not mana efficient, use your earth shock to interrupt spells but you should be basically spamming lightning and chain lightning. Mixing in there Elemental Mastery and Thunderstrike when they are off CD.

Edited, Jan 8th 2009 2:13pm by SynnTastic

How much spell power you have isn't going to help us determine why you are going out of mana so quickly.

Link your armory like the OP did and we might be able to see why you are going out of mana so much.

If all you are droping is totem of wrath, that's an issue right there, you should be dropping all 4 totems. Totem of wrath, stoneskin, mana spring, and wrath of air(which you don't have yet) are what I typically drop. I usually switch out stoneskin and wrath of air with windfury and strength of earth if I have a melee heavy group. It costs me some DPS, but it buffs the group overall.

You really shouldn't need to drop healing spring totem in an instance. That's what a healer is for, mana spring helps a healer far more than healing spring will, IMO.

Also being last on DPS doesn't mean anything. Far too many factors to go into that for it to have any meaning. I was level 62 in a group with a level 66 hunter, two 65 death knights and a 66 paladin. At the end of the Slavepens run I was second on DPS by about 15 dps less than #1, and had also contributed 45% of the heals to the group. I won't use that as an example of how great Elemental DPS is, the only thing that says is how crappy the rest of my group was(and the numbers don't even compare to how crappy they actually were). The group you are saying you were last in DPS could have been much better geared, higher level, more experienced, a many number of things.

You shouldn't determine how much you contribute to the group based on your DPS number. Yes you are a DPS class, that is one of your functions for the group, but that totem of wrath gives a significant amount of spell power to any caster in the group, making their spells hit harder and their heals heal for more. That windfury totem makes those melee hit faster increasing their dps. Shaman offer a lot of utility to a group regardless of the group make-up as well as the dps we put out.

Oh heh, heh, my bad...