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#1 Jan 07 2009 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
This is my current plan for my build (I'm level 64 atm), going for high burst and combo point regen. http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/rogue/talents.html?tal=30530310500010000000000000000000000000000000000000000005020230133320121350105201050

The build started off with me as a noob (this rogue was my first toon a while back), loving ambush and everything about it, but also wanting cold blood and the other low tier talents in the assassination tree. I've tweaked it since then, so it's definitely better. It's worked wonders, with the combination of Ghostly Strike and Setup, along with Ruthlessness and Relentless Strikes gives me amazing combo point regen even in mid battle, with a decent chance of a 5pt finisher to get me a point and automatic 25 energy. Plus, with Premeditation and Initiative, when I Ambush I instantly have 4pts, then I Hemo>Cold Blood>Evis and I've already dropped around 5k (at my level). Most mobs my level die within about 5 seconds with that combo, though I can't cold blood every time.

Keep in mind that at 80 I'm going to respec, allowing me to take the point from Cold Blood and put it into Shadow dance. I think that's a fair trade. I might also take 2 points out of imp Evis to put them in Filthy Tricks, but hey, I'll deal with that at 80.

Now, I have two questions about this build.

1 - Will it be useful at all in the future as far as grouping goes? In the past I've been able to do my DPS job very well, and unless the tank was an aggro god or something I was avoiding aggro pretty well. I realize that the high burst damage isn't as good as the sustained DPS of combat rogues. Will that render me obsolete for raids, or make it difficult to find a group that wants me?

2 - Is there anything I can change to make it any better for my purposes? Is Cheat Death worth a switch from some other skill (From what I've heard, it ain't)?

-Syl

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 11:09am by Sylvactrix

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 11:11am by Sylvactrix
#2 Jan 07 2009 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
Relentless Strikes is worthwhile. With Kidney Shot you get energy and then some. Improved poisons is definately not worth it, since in most cases your doing 1/3 to 1/2 your targets HP with Ambush. Fleet footed is really more of a fun thing in my mind. People here will tell you CB isn't worth it, but I think it's fine as long as you have the more important talents. I don't have enough personal experience with Cheat death and HaT.
#3 Jan 08 2009 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
Neither instant poison or fleet footed are in my build... you sure you have the right one?
#4 Jan 08 2009 at 3:29 PM Rating: Good
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Has someone been spreading the "Ambush is awesome" rumor again? There are a lot of these threads popping up suddenly...

Short answer: Read the sticky. It's the first post in the rogue forum, hard to miss.

Medium answer: Ambush sucks in PvE. People like to think it's great because of the pretty crit numbers it pops up. But it's crap. It scales horribly as you level and is only good when it's all you have available. You would have better efficiency while soloing as either Serrated/Mutilate or Deep Combat with better performance in instances. Sounds to me like you've never tried the other talent trees, so I would suggest you try out the alternatives and see how that goes.

@Lipton: Um, what?
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