I believe that the answer to this question is no, not if you are healing people.
I just want to make sure that this is correct and that heals never miss when casted on a party member.
Sorry ahead of time if this is just a dumb question.
I am not talking about gear used to solo in, just when I heal a party.
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Depends on what you want to do. +hit turns the chance to miss a spell into chance to hit it. Since you cannot miss targets on friendly spells (heals), your typical holy-healer spec does not require any hit. If you intend to deal damage as a holy spec (hey, it exists) you will need it.
Thank you for the quick answer. I thought that is how it worked and just wanted to make sure.
No worries, ocassionaly I have too much time on my hands =P.
As has been noted, heals can't miss, so if you're a healer Hit should be the very last stat you worry about.
However, if you happen to have gear lying around that has Hit on it, maybe stuff you swap out when you solo or whatever, you might want to have a piece or two on hand if you're heading somewhere that depends heavily on Shackle and you're the only priest in the party. I don't know how much that applies in Lich King, but, for example, Kara sure could get frustrating when my Shackle neverever worked.
However, if you happen to have gear lying around that has Hit on it, maybe stuff you swap out when you solo or whatever, you might want to have a piece or two on hand if you're heading somewhere that depends heavily on Shackle and you're the only priest in the party. I don't know how much that applies in Lich King, but, for example, Kara sure could get frustrating when my Shackle neverever worked.
[]No worries, ocassionaly I have too much time on my hands =P.[/]
Occasionally?
Occasionally?
Wasn't shackles changed somehow? The main reason was that holy priests needed to cast this, and a lot of times we got resists or early breaks. So i think i saw something about Shackles being modified, but i can't remember how...
Some priests like to collect a +hit set for certain fights where they have to Mind Control an NPC (like Instructor whatshisname's adds in Naxx25). We only have one raiding shadowpriest, so another of our healing priests brings +hit gear for that boss.
I've never had any probs with shackle without +hit gear tbh, even on moroes i just reshackled more often than the duration time to allow for breakages :)
But for general healing, no :) Although i do have +12 hit from my Icewalker enchant *blush*
I've never had any probs with shackle without +hit gear tbh, even on moroes i just reshackled more often than the duration time to allow for breakages :)
But for general healing, no :) Although i do have +12 hit from my Icewalker enchant *blush*
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[]No worries, ocassionaly I have too much time on my hands =P.[/]
Occasionally? Smiley: wink
Occasionally? Smiley: wink
Time and policemen;
The two things in life that are always there when you don't need them and aren't there when you do need them.
So I'm going to hijack this thread ,instead of making another topic. Anyways I have pretty much only one main toon which is my druid tank. Only healing I ever did was tossing a few HoT's on myself and maybe others in BG's.
So I am making my first healing toon- holy priest. I have read the stickies and even yahoo'd holy priest builds. Haven't really found much of what I need so I am hear to ask ya more of just what talents I will really need and what to grab in the near future. My priest is currently loooow but me and a friend are gonna lvl up together and using the RAF should be lvl 60 in no time. I am just honestly asking to be pointed to some links of builds and other stuff that would come in handy.That would be all. TY in advance
Anyways names Jaecbannen on The Forgotten coast, troll priest. Just introducing myself to the brotherhood I guess.
So I am making my first healing toon- holy priest. I have read the stickies and even yahoo'd holy priest builds. Haven't really found much of what I need so I am hear to ask ya more of just what talents I will really need and what to grab in the near future. My priest is currently loooow but me and a friend are gonna lvl up together and using the RAF should be lvl 60 in no time. I am just honestly asking to be pointed to some links of builds and other stuff that would come in handy.That would be all. TY in advance
Anyways names Jaecbannen on The Forgotten coast, troll priest. Just introducing myself to the brotherhood I guess.
Welcome, I guess *grins*
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=3;mid=1227066588113754939;page=1
That thread probably has more information than the sticky. See what I came up with to start with and how that changed based on what people like Dadanox said. I think the priests on this forum pretty much re-invented the wheel over there; stick with the process and you'll learn a great deal about the class.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=3;mid=1227066588113754939;page=1
That thread probably has more information than the sticky. See what I came up with to start with and how that changed based on what people like Dadanox said. I think the priests on this forum pretty much re-invented the wheel over there; stick with the process and you'll learn a great deal about the class.
thank you very much that thread will help alot.
First off, don't level with your endgame build. Whatever build you do level with, make sure it maximizes Spirit Tap (Improved Spirit Tap is not necessary if you aren't going Shadow). If you decide to level Holy, get the Smitey talents (Searing Light, Surge of Light, Holy Reach) while leveling.
You can heal just fine with any leveling build at least up to Northrend. Just how high off-spec healing goes is a topic of debate. Experiment and spec however it's fun for you.
For endgame PVE, if you intend to be Holy for surely sure, here's my personal lowdown on talents:
Most everyone has: Improved Renew, Holy Specialization, Divine Fury, Inspiration, Improved Healing, Spiritual Guidance, Spirit of Redemption, Surge of Light, Spiritual Healing, Holy Concentration, Empowered Healing, Serendipity, Improved Holy Concentration, Circle of Healing, Divine Providence, Guardian Spirit
Hardly anyone has: Spell Warding, Blessed Recovery, Searing Light, Blessed Resilience
Depending on personal preference/playstyle/role, most will then choose between: Healing Focus, Desperate Prayer, Holy Reach, Healing Prayers, Lightwell, Test of Faith
Those are all in order of tier on the Holy tree. Holy builds will generally have 14 points in Disc (usually Twin Disciplines, Improved Inner Fire and Fort, Meditation and Inner Focus).
Last I saw, Elitist Jerks liked this build.
I run with this one.
However, if you're saying you're going Holy only because you want to heal and you think that's the healing spec, I suggest playing with both deep Holy and deep Disc once you're high enough level to really give both a shot. Both are viable for 5-man, heroic, and raid healing, but they're pretty different playstyles.
Grain of salt: this is all my personal opinion. I'm not superpriest or anything.
You can heal just fine with any leveling build at least up to Northrend. Just how high off-spec healing goes is a topic of debate. Experiment and spec however it's fun for you.
For endgame PVE, if you intend to be Holy for surely sure, here's my personal lowdown on talents:
Most everyone has: Improved Renew, Holy Specialization, Divine Fury, Inspiration, Improved Healing, Spiritual Guidance, Spirit of Redemption, Surge of Light, Spiritual Healing, Holy Concentration, Empowered Healing, Serendipity, Improved Holy Concentration, Circle of Healing, Divine Providence, Guardian Spirit
Hardly anyone has: Spell Warding, Blessed Recovery, Searing Light, Blessed Resilience
Depending on personal preference/playstyle/role, most will then choose between: Healing Focus, Desperate Prayer, Holy Reach, Healing Prayers, Lightwell, Test of Faith
Those are all in order of tier on the Holy tree. Holy builds will generally have 14 points in Disc (usually Twin Disciplines, Improved Inner Fire and Fort, Meditation and Inner Focus).
Last I saw, Elitist Jerks liked this build.
I run with this one.
However, if you're saying you're going Holy only because you want to heal and you think that's the healing spec, I suggest playing with both deep Holy and deep Disc once you're high enough level to really give both a shot. Both are viable for 5-man, heroic, and raid healing, but they're pretty different playstyles.
Grain of salt: this is all my personal opinion. I'm not superpriest or anything.
You're welcome. And aye, listen to Teacake, she seems kind of omniscient when it's about the priest class.
To tie in with her story for a second;
There's reasons for that; Spell Warding used to be a PvP filler, but right now everything else in the tree makes for a better filler than that. It could work if you stick around the lower arena brackets, though. Blessed Recovery can work nicely in a PvP build if you have the points for it and Searing Light simply stinks. As for Blessed Resilience; the reason you don't see it is because it's the core talent of a holy PvP build, and PvP holy builds are so incredibly situational that you barely see them.
To tie in with her story for a second;
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Hardly anyone has: Spell Warding, Blessed Recovery, Searing Light, Blessed Resilience
There's reasons for that; Spell Warding used to be a PvP filler, but right now everything else in the tree makes for a better filler than that. It could work if you stick around the lower arena brackets, though. Blessed Recovery can work nicely in a PvP build if you have the points for it and Searing Light simply stinks. As for Blessed Resilience; the reason you don't see it is because it's the core talent of a holy PvP build, and PvP holy builds are so incredibly situational that you barely see them.
Mozared wrote:
listen to Teacake, she seems kind of omniscient when it's about the priest class.
I imagine my guildies would beg to differ, but yer a sweetheart. Actually i have always taken Searing Light :) My priest isn't a mere healbot. It's also my only char, so it has to be able to do everything. I need to solo stuff (still need to do dailies, and half the quests in Icecrown). Also.. farming for tailoring (6 eternals every 4 days, plus the dusts and cloth) and other stuff.
So my raiding build has searing light and spirit tap ;)
So my raiding build has searing light and spirit tap ;)
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