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#1 Jan 02 2009 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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Hi Ppl I was wondering if you could help me with a macro I made /cast tigers fury /cast rake. What it does is just cast tiger fury while spamming rake, can anyone add a modifier I can put in there that will set this to cast rip on a specific number of combo points before it rakes again? Otherwise it will just keep raking as rake requires less energy points.

Thanks
#2 Jan 02 2009 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think you can add modifiers like that into a macro. Macros do not have conditional statements like if this than that.
#3 Jan 02 2009 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe i can do this then

/cast tiger's fury
/cast rip
/cast rake

it will try to do rip when available and then rake?! I just want to get the extra damage in...
#4 Jan 02 2009 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good
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The only problem I can see is that Tiger Fury has a cool down that might make this hang up. Here is a link to a site that has some examples of Feral macros. Check it out: http://druid.wikispaces.com/Macro's+and+Addons#toc6
#5 Jan 02 2009 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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TY for the sites but ive been to them , guess tonight is trial and error. This is the bad boy im going to try tonight:

/cast shred
/cast tiger's fury
/cast rip
/cast rake

Personally i think rip may make it hang, the reason i put shred first is so that tiger fury doesn't go off to soon and pop me out of stealth. I find the tiger fury rake works really well and i would like to enhance it.
#6 Jan 02 2009 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
Macros do indeed have conditional statements, but none of them will allow you to do what you are describing here.

Macro conditionals cannot watch your CP and are not intelligent enough to identify buffs/debuffs. You will have to make those decisions yourself. However, if Tiger's Fury is off the GCD (my memory is fuzzy since I haven't used it in forever and don't have KotJ):

#showtooltip 
/cast Tiger's Fury 
/cast Rake


Should at least combine those two actions in one press. If Tiger's Fury triggers the GCD, then you can do:

#showtooltip 
/castsequence reset=30 Tiger's Fury, Rake


This will require you to press the button twice to perform both actions, but it should still work. Note it will not work again as long as TF is on cooldown; the macro will not roll forward until it can accomplish each task in the list successively.

Edit: The macro you have will not work under any circumstances since multiples of those abilities trigger the GCD and will halt the macro immediately if it cannot proceed further.

Edited, Jan 2nd 2009 2:13pm by Norellicus
#7 Jan 02 2009 at 11:30 AM Rating: Good
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Crud well thanks for the help, ill just have to keybind some stuff then. :)
#8 Jan 02 2009 at 1:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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nevercrits wrote:
spamming rake


Why are you spamming Rake?

You should let the DoT run its course, then reapply.

Spam Mangle or Shred. All other cat attacks are more situational.

Also what is your DPS rotation?
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#9 Jan 02 2009 at 8:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Horsemouth wrote:
nevercrits wrote:
spamming rake

Why are you spamming Rake?
You should let the DoT run its course, then reapply.

Thank you, Horse...when I read this question I imagined all sorts of "WTF why you spammin rake?!?" responses and then was shocked to see the thread get as far as it did without anybody bringing that up.

The goofiness of spamming rake is exemplified by the one situation in which I personally DO spam rake...when I'm farming/grinding and want to rack up combo points for a nice long Savage Roar I spam rip because the initial hit does such a measly amount of damage that it's the only way I can get to 5 CPs without killing the mob.

nevercrits wrote:
This is the bad boy im going to try tonight:
/cast shred
/cast tiger's fury
/cast rip
/cast rake
Personally i think rip may make it hang, the reason i put shred first is so that tiger fury doesn't go off to soon and pop me out of stealth. I find the tiger fury rake works really well and i would like to enhance it.

A) Tiger's Fury does not pop you out of stealth.
B) What level are you? Hopefully 31 or lower, right? Because you get your opening moves Ravage and Pounce at 32 and 36 respectively.

nevercrits wrote:
Crud well thanks for the help, ill just have to keybind some stuff then.

You should really have ALL of your combat moves keybound, to an actual key or mouse button, whether standalone attacks from your spell book or conditional macros.
#10 Jan 02 2009 at 11:56 PM Rating: Good
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JeeBar wrote:
You should really have ALL of your combat moves keybound, to an actual key or mouse button, whether standalone attacks from your spell book or conditional macros.


Isn't that true for everyone? :)

I noticed a huge increase in 'skill' when I keybound everything and started using more conditionals. Everyone needs to be told at some point. It will up your effectiveness by a huge margin. Clicking skills that aren't non-combat skill is just foolishness.

The whole keybind thing is what actually started me on my make a new UI quest. I have a whole bar of hidden keybinds. Its caster form but the 1-= keys have about 3 conditionals on them in any form. The 2 side bars hide in combat and Revive and Brez swap via combat status.

That being said things that involve stuff with divergent cooldowns should not be macro'd as one spammable macro. Too many things have different durations. They also have different priorities and macros can not account for that. The type of macro you are trying to make is not a good idea for that reason.

Keep the questions coming though it is the only way to learn.
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#11 Jan 05 2009 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry guess i should have said this earlier but at the time i wrote this i was lvl 30 , im now lvl 34. One thing im not understanding though about the previous comments is how are you spamming shred, dont you need to be behind the enemy all the time?!
#12 Jan 05 2009 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
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I was reading some info and it appears i should spam claw for now so ill switch my macro.

Edited, Jan 5th 2009 10:44am by nevercrits
#13 Jan 05 2009 at 8:15 AM Rating: Good
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nevercrits wrote:
Sorry guess i should have said this earlier but at the time i wrote this i was lvl 30 , im now lvl 34.

Oh good, that explains the non-use of openers you didn't have. : ) Enjoy Ravage for two more levels...when you get Pounce at 36 that'll become you're "practically every time" opener because it incapacitates them for a few seconds (during which time you can hit them without breaking it) and hits 'em with a nice bleed DoT.

nevercrits wrote:
One thing im not understanding though about the previous comments is how are you spamming shred, dont you need to be behind the enemy all the time?!

Shred for the win whenever the mobs you're hitting are being tanked, i.e. when you're in a party playing DPS role.
#14 Jan 05 2009 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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nevercrits wrote:
I was reading some info and it appears i should spam claw for now so ill switch my macro.


As you level you'll get more and more attacks, and combat will become (a little) more complex.

Regarding the creation and use of macros, I think you'd get a lot out of the discussion in this post.

The general idea is that instead of trying to use macros to execute predefined sequences of moves, which get increasingly clumsy, you use them to set up conditionals that make it so a given button/key does the right move if you're in combat or out of combat. This saves bar space and reduces the numbers of keys you have to click in combat. For example, your 1 key will Pounce if you're in stealth or Mangle if you're in combat.
#15 Jan 05 2009 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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Ty reading it right now
#16 Jan 05 2009 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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Hiya,

To the OP: indeed, as was mentioned above, your first post was not the best post ever posted. But hey, you are in the friendly neighborhood, so not much harm done here.

I have not seen this in replies yet, but when levelling, I turn your macros around. Something like this:

/cast Pounce
/cast Tiger's Fury

and even

/cast Claw
/cast Tiger's Fury

Granted, my opener/attack does not get the benefit of TF, but at this way, Tiger's Fury is up as much as possible. I tend to forget about specials like TF, trinkets etc, so for me it is a godsend. Maximum uptime but a bit loss in the start.

As a second opinion on "sequenced" macros: try to avoid them. Situations change, certainly when soloing (levelling), so you best start training the use of your appropriate abilities at appropriate times. When you sequence and something goes wrong, you have to start looking for other buttons, which is at the very least... inconvenient.

Pffff I hope the above makes any sense, because I am too tired right now to read it back again. (sorry in advance)
#17 Jan 05 2009 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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JeeBar that was exactely what i was looking for its GOLDEN, i want to test out those alt modifiers u made and see if it will do the finishes, if not its ok. For now ill have to wait for a catfront macro as i dont have those spells so ill make something small till i lvl up. BRAVO! exactely what i wanted :)
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