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#1 Dec 31 2008 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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I have a few questions about this interesting weapon in our Holy ********

Can I have more than one person shielded at the same time? I'm thinking I can.

I know it scales with Spell Power, and the coefficient is 0.75. So if someone has 2k +healing, is it as simple as 0.75 * 2,000 = 1,500 and then add the base 500 for a total of 2,000 damage blocked per tick?

I think I know the answer to this next one: on Loetheb, since it isn't a healing spell, I should be able to cast it at any time. Right? Wrong?

The way I read the tooltip I cast it and that person is shielded, with damage blocked on the next hit. But I've heard people say that it needs to proc, so after you shield someone they need to get hit for it to work and then the damage is blocked on the second hit (and after that every six seconds for thirty seconds). Who is right?

I see this as being valuable without even considering the FoL crit increase, which is nice but now that I'm using FoL a lot less not such a big deal. I've been shielding my tank just as he is about to pull so that it takes nothing away from my healing "rotation" once the pull begins. I'm thinking that 10,000 damage avoided in thirty seconds is a good thing.


Edit: spelling

Edited, Dec 31st 2008 4:27pm by cynyck
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#2 Dec 31 2008 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
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- One pally, multiple shields? Yes.
- Spellpower scaling? Yes.
- Loatheb debuff? Don't know yet, dammit - we're still 3/15 Naxx.
- Need to proc before damage reduction? Yes. The spell puts a buff on the target that only procs. The proc puts an additional buff on the target that shields them.
- Useful? I agree. I do the same, throwing both the initial shield and initial beacon on the tank before the pull, as close as I can.

Since I'm creeping into the gear range (21k mana unbuffed) where I don't have to worry about mana (unless we bring a lot of the people newer to LK raiding, who tend to have DPS issues), I find it's worth the GCD to keep it up, since if the target is taking constant damage, it pays for itself, and it seems to smooth the damage out a bit, which at least feels less risky to me. Also, if someone gets/grabs aggro in the raid, rather than potentially sniping the heal the raid healer might/might not be throwing, I throw a shield on the DPSer. That way, if the damage continues, it will help the raid healer out somewhat without making her healing less predictable.
#3 Jan 01 2009 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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On Loatheb, yes. It works about the same way a priest's PW:Shield does. It just requires them to be hit once, and then hit again within 6 seconds.

But some damage doesn't proc the shield, and I'm trying to find all that doesn't work. Friendly fire, like SoB, does not proc the shield, and I don't think it gets absorbed. I don't remember Sapphiron's Frost Aura proccing the shield either.
#4 Jan 02 2009 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Friendly fire does get absorbed by the shield, but it won't proc it.

I've heard that blocked hits (with a shield) don't proc the buff either, but I have as yet not been able to test it myself. It does seem like tanks will get hit but not proc when it should have.

I think, the application of an aoe dot will proc it, but not the dot ticks themselves. Again, no testing on this, and its such an easy buff to miss seeing during hectic combat.

#5 Jan 02 2009 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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Yes on all counts.

You can shield more than one person.

Yes it scales with SP, I believe your calculations are correct.

Works on Loatheb.

You need to get hit for it to proc. It will then be available to proc every 6 secs.

If you can spare the GCD, this is definitely a good thing to cast.

There is a good thread on the elitist jerks forum with explains all this. You might want to take a look.
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