Arrrgh. AH Rant.Follow

/rant on

Why is it every time I check the AH (Moon Guard) for Daunting or Tempered Saronite, the only freaking things I can find are PvP Saronite and sometimes Healer Saronite equipment?

UGH.

I swear Blacksmiths nowadays.... *grumblemutter*

I don't like the idea of using the Trade channel to commission some equipment... so I end up buying a bunch of mats, and then the Blacksmith is probably going to charge me a big fee for doing it, that's IF he doesn't take my mats and run, I just... don't know about doing something like that.

So I really wish Blacksmiths would keep an eye on the AH and instead of putting up a bunch of PvP Saronite when there's already 5-6 of them, I wish they'd put up some Tempered Saronite especially when there's none currently on the AH.

Yes, I am STILL using a Cobalt Belt and Cobalt Boots because their Tempered Saronite brothers are NEVER on the AH. This is like my 6th day in a row that I've checked, and I check 3 times a day.

I even have a belt buckle waiting in my bank, and a gem to go in it... but I am NOT wasting THAT on a Cobalt Belt... grrr.

Anyone else have this problem?

You're problem is you're on the wrong realm! If you were on Bloodhoof I'd make you whatever you wanted free of charge (providing mats of course, or I'd provide mats for a fare cost) ;)

Seriously though, I've not had this problem. Of course I am a blacksmith so I'm not looking for these pieces, but regarding other professions I'm not having this issue either. Couple things I thought of: 1) there seems to be a huge surge in the number of tanks from TBC so maybe there are tanking pieces on the AH at times, and they just get gobbled up really fast 2) Those people skilling up professions tend to (if they're smart at least) make the items that take the fewest/cheapest mats and/or sell the highest. I'd have to check the mats again for these items, but it's possible that a lot of people have been skilling on these items recently? That and since PvP gear has been scarce for a while maybe those were the items selling the best.

Just some things to consider before you pull the rest of your hair out ^^

/rant on

the AH is not YOUR bank. no one owes you any pieces. i'm not gonna list a piece of mediocre tank armor, risk ~10g listing fee + AH cut, and hope a someone buys it before i lose my money.

tempered gear is an expensive leveling piece to make. in the BS 400s we're still using lots of Cobalt. i personally DE'd most of my leveling items and currently greens are more valuable DE's than blues are.

your choice to not seek out a crafter is your own problem. your choice to not level BSing is your own problem. your choice to not have friends/guildies is your own problem.

if you turn trade chat back on you see many respectable players spamming the channel LFW and often times offering to pay YOU for the skill up. utilize the community and its services.

what do you do for enchants? wait for some to make a vellum for it? cuz i get a nice mark up on those :D

A lot of the gear people use to skill up on is that PVP or Spell + gear. Thus - a lot of the junk on the AH is that type...

Go to any major town and re-org your bank, bank alts, whatever - Write a macro with what you are looking for and spam it about 1x per minute in /2.

I usually see someone LF-BS while I'm doing other things in town... I usually /w them with a question about what they need and my BS link. Very easy and effective.

If people take your mats - call a GM.

how are you arguing with me? im telling you how it is, not giving you my opinion.

crafting Savage gear is orange at the same time that Tempered gear is yellow. since they cost nearly the same mats, the BS will make the orange(guaranteed skill pt) gear over the yellow(maybe skill pt) gear.

this IS why you see many pieces of Savage gear in the AH. its not there for a BS to make a profit. its there for a BS to unload his bags.

i repeat. i wouldn't craft a Tempered piece in the hopes that someone will buy it. AH fee are too costly for the risk and spamming trade sucks.

the price of Saronite Bars is also irrelevant. when a BS is at 400-420 he is still using the loads of Cobalt he picked up from the first 4 zones he quested. Saronite doesn't show up until ~lvl 75 questing areas. i personally send my Saronite to my JC toon, where a stack will get me 50-200g. much better than trying to sell tanking bracers for 50g max.



incorrect. Daunting gear is nice, i agree. Tempered Saronite has many better alternatives. the Tempered Titansteel has 2 pieces. misc quested pieces are at least on par(i have 2 better atm). rep pieces are a given. but this is a different thread altogether.

It's down around 20-30g a stack on my server too -.- Used to be way spendy, but it's taken a huge dip the last week and a half. My belt buckles too :( I was selling them for 100g+ easy, now I'm lucky if I can sell them for 65g.

I'm not one to gleefully watch as someone else's livelihood gets trounced into the dirt, but far and away the wealthiest players in WoW are the ones with high level jewelcrafting. When you can pick up a stack of Saronite from auction for 20-30g, get four prospects out of it (fairly safe bet at least one of them is going to yield a rare gem) and then cut the gem and flog it on auction for sometimes as much as 120g on my realm, there's a gross imbalance.

And I don't buy into the "jewelcrafting is expensive to level so we should be able to make a lot of gold as a reward for doing it" bit...I've got a now-57 warrior with 354 JC heading to level 60 so I can prospect my own Saronite and bypass the auction house moguls. +16 defense gems sell on auction for a consistent 70-90g on my realm right now. +16 Strength gems sell for upwards of 110g. I've learned that if I go for the mixed color cuts, I can save a fortune.

It will be even better when I can go mine a bunch of Saronite, prospect it, bank the rares, and then track down one of my guild's 3 prolific jewelcrafters and get them cut for free as I need them. It seems every JC I knew who was at 375 jewelcrafting for any length of time pre-expansion is riding around on one of the 20k mammoths with vendors. Good for them, and I mean that, but I think they can afford to take a hit in their income.

For the time being, there are certain cuts (typically heroic drops or exalted rep purchases) that are tough to find. The JCs who do have them are frequently reluctant to speak up when you inquire about it in /2. I've got a couple of gems in my gear now that are less than ideal (+parry/+stam instead of +dodge/+stam) because the gems I want sell for 120g, the JCs who cut them list them on auction from alts, and I can never track down a JC who will cut it for me. Gemming my gear to get the stats I want and still keep my meta active is almost turning into a mini-game, further complicated by finding viable cuts at reasonable prices until some of our guild JCs have had a chance to build their rep and get some drops.

I keep in mind at all times that Naxx is the Kara of WotLK. I'm not about to dump hundreds of gold into augmenting a single piece of gear that will be upgraded shortly after the next major content patch. Gold is easy to make...I'm having no difficulty staying on top of my raiding costs, and all I do for dailies are Sons of Hodir quests. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm inclined to spend it as fast as I make it just because I can. I'm poor by a lot of player's standards at 80. I keep a reserve of 5k gold on my paladin and try not to dip into it for anything. I do, however, have a 440+ leatherworker/skinner alt that can make me epic leg kits quite readily. I've got an enchanter alt that can provide me with some of my enchants via vellum (and also can D/E all the BoE junk for a ready supply of materials even if I can't do the enchant myself). And now my warrior is level 60 with 410 Jewelcrafting...26 stacks of Saronite yielded 19 rare WotLK gems that are in the bank waiting for my next upgrade with sockets.



Most professions (to include and/or especially gathering professions) have made an absolute killing since the expansion release. I don't recall the last time I sold anything on auction...the leather, the herbs, and the ore have all been used. With such an incredible abundance of dailies throughout Northrend, not to mention the fact that a frugal player will pull in 5-6k gold from quest rewards and vendor trash in the process of doing the Loremaster of Northrend achievement, it's no longer really necessary for any one profession to be able to haul in tens of thousands of gold over the course of a few months. If they can, great. It won't detract from their ability to keep their gear in top form if they can't, however.

With my first WoW toon, I leveled enchanting because I did a bit of research beforehand and learned about the buy/disenchant/sell method of earning an income. The realm I rolled on was barely a month old at the time, and I made a relative fortune. As the market filled out and more people were around to compete, it slowly became pointless to invest the same amount of time for a trivial gain. When you're used to checking your mailbox on your level 30-40 main and pulling out 100-200g/day on 45 mins worth of effort, doing the same thing for 10g and a mailbox full of returned items is almost like a slap in the face. That's why I try to be careful to not let my opinion degrade into gleeful hopping up and down that another profession is getting "nerfed" to bits.

Ironically, savvy auction house speculation is still where most of the vast fortunes are coming from these days...but behind most successful day traders is usually a well filled out JC book ;D