Death Strike - a wee bit too powerful?Follow

Your Death Strike crits Fel Spirit for 1019 damage.
Your Death Strike heals you for 2038.

At level 60. Maximum health is 5419.

I have limited experience playing Death Knights in PvP, but having fought them a bit on my Paladin, they seem nigh indestructible with a Blood build. Might of Mograine means my ~300 damage Death Strike hits turn into ~800 damage crits which heal me for 1600+ health which is about 30% of my maximum health.

Since I'm obviously playing a Death Knight now, I have no issues with Death Strike being so powerful, but my Paladin cringes as he pumps out 1,000 Flash of Lights that get interrupted, silenced and do zero damage to anyone.

I snooped around and it seems the heal doesn't scale all that much with level, so I guess it'll just be throughout the 60's that it'll rock my world.

The formula for the heal is h = (0.5 * n * x) + x

h = health restored
n = number of diseases
x = damage done

So at level 60 with 5,500 health and a Death Strike crit of 1,000 damage on two diseases, it's 2,000 health restored. That's 36% of maximum health which is a whole lot, considering you can get in two of those strikes before you have to wait for the runes to cool down. However, at, say, level 70 with 10,000 health and a crit of 1,500 on two diseases, it's 3,000 health which is 30% of maximum health.

Jumping to level 80 at 22,000 health, if it's supposed to stick to the 30ish percent of maximum health, Death Strike would have to crit for 3,300 damage, which to me seems highly unlikely to happen.

at 80 it only restores 2.5-4k hp i think. so no it does not scale well considering i have 33k hp raid buffed for tanking a 10man.

That was me questing in Hellfire Peninsula, Outland. Those Fel Spirits you have to slay on Alliance side for the Jules Exorcism quest.

The thing about Death Strike, which is why it doesn't scale well in solo situations, is that it scales with damage done and number of diseases, instead of maximum health. Since your health apparently (33k, yikes) goes through the roof, the heal from Death Strike is toned down a bit.

However, the amount healed is also based on the amount of diseases on the target. So imagine a 10-man DK raid where everyone puts up two diseases (I know Crypt Fever is a third, but we'll keep it simple) and someone crits for 2k with Death Strike (I'm assuming this is possible at level 80, fully raid buffed):

n = 10 * 2 = 20 diseases.
x = 2,000 damage.
h = (0.5 * 20 * 2,000) + 2,000 = 22,000 health restored.

Holy hell, right?

A Warrior with 33,000 health would heal himself through Bloodthirst for 990, if my math is correct. Of course, if he's got 33,000 health, he's probably the tank and thus doesn't have Bloodthirst.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2008 12:06pm by Mazra

It has been my experience that when attacks are counting diseases on the target, it only counts the ones you have put up.

Glyph is being changed to boost DS damage by 20% in 3.0.8.

Edit: Maz, that formula is wrong in my experience.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2008 7:45pm by Theophany

Death Knights don't bother me in PVP, its the paladins and there 12 seconds of do whatever the hell they want bubble that needs nerfed.

Point taken. will look there from now on. The change on the glyph will be a good thing anyway, was annoying holding back RP to keep heals up, straight 20% damage increase is better imo.

If I don't post here again before xmas then merry xmas to all ^_^ happy holiday's n stuff and thanks for linking that Theo.

Those tanking weapons they show are sexay.

Even if they are the same models as the rune weapons from Ebon Hold...