I came across an older post that said that when PoM heals the target, the threat generated from the heal is added to the target's table and not the priest that originally cast PoM. I was wondering if this is still true.
I like to cast PoM on myself and then throw out a SW:D on occasions when mana level is good and I get bored waiting to heal. I don't steal aggro or anything, I was just thinking that in some cases I can help the tank build threat with PoM and help him establish himself at the beginning of the fight.
I usually throw it at the tank when I see him beginning to take damage. Maybe I should wait until the full heal will be used and increase the threat produced instead of the usual overheal that I get from the first time it heals the tank. Which brings me back to original question. Does it even make a difference?
... I might be overthinking this, threat management ain't my job!
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The have modified the spell, so that now every PoM bounce is your heal, not the target's. The same with the threat. You heal, you get the aggro for it.
The nice part is when it crits: it can proc all crit based abilities: SoL, Conc. With the ocasional bug that if it crits on a fellow priest, he might get SoL instead of you.
The nice part is when it crits: it can proc all crit based abilities: SoL, Conc. With the ocasional bug that if it crits on a fellow priest, he might get SoL instead of you.
PilgrimFX wrote:
The have modified the spell, so that now every PoM bounce is your heal, not the target's. The same with the threat. You heal, you get the aggro for it.
Are you certain of this? This is the first I'd heard of it and once I read this I logged my priest on and had a play, according to my Omen while grouped with a rogue, after three PoM hits I still had 0 threat...
When they modified the combat log they made it possible for addons to accurately track PoM bounces and credit them to the correct priest however I'm not aware nor seen any evidence of threat changes too.
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Edited cause I forgot to add the link.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 10:21am by teacake
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Prayer of Mending: when Prayer of Mending procs (i.e. dmg taken, PoM charge gets used up), the threat from the healing done is attributed directly to the person who cast the PoM. This is a direct change from TBC, when the threat was attributed to the person on whom the PoM proc'd. Don't use PoM on pulls unless you also Fade at the same time, or you'll get smushed. To reiterate: PoM no longer gives threat to other people. Be careful.
Note: at the moment (3.0.2), PoM procs are granting 0 threat ... to anyone. I consider this a bug; some people seem to think that contrary to blue posts, PoM is just going to be threatless from here on. Check it after each patch to make sure.
Note: at the moment (3.0.2), PoM procs are granting 0 threat ... to anyone. I consider this a bug; some people seem to think that contrary to blue posts, PoM is just going to be threatless from here on. Check it after each patch to make sure.
Edited cause I forgot to add the link.
Edited, Dec 18th 2008 10:21am by teacake
Thank you Teacake I can always rely on you to clear things up, also explains why in my own test I was receiving 0 threat.
see? i did my homework :) I also seen that i don't get aggro from the first PoM healing, but i just assumed the tanks were good :P
Tsk, and i was just getting out of the habit of pre-POMing the tank too....
I have been keeping PoM running constantly, it is such a fast/cheap way to keep the heals going around. If I can get 2 or 3 PoM heals going in parallel it's great. Except like last night when they all kept coming back to me on the first bounce!
I wait until the tank hp drops a little before casting PoM though, because I hate to see the wasted overheal.
I wait until the tank hp drops a little before casting PoM though, because I hate to see the wasted overheal.
Xert wrote:
I have been keeping PoM running constantly, it is such a fast/cheap way to keep the heals going around. If I can get 2 or 3 PoM heals going in parallel it's great. Except like last night when they all kept coming back to me on the first bounce!
I wait until the tank hp drops a little before casting PoM though, because I hate to see the wasted overheal.
I wait until the tank hp drops a little before casting PoM though, because I hate to see the wasted overheal.
What?
You can only have 1 PoM going at one time. So if you cast PoM on the tank, and it jumps to you, and you cast PoM on the tank again, you lose the PoM buff...
You are correct! Insert "...parallel among the priests" :).
When it goes off it is like a guy from the Salvation Army is ringing for donations right there with us.
When it goes off it is like a guy from the Salvation Army is ringing for donations right there with us.
Xert wrote:
I have been keeping PoM running constantly, it is such a fast/cheap way to keep the heals going around. If I can get 2 or 3 PoM heals going in parallel it's great. Except like last night when they all kept coming back to me on the first bounce.
If PoM comes back to you, SW:D will cause your target damage, cause you damage, cause PoM to heal you and send it on its merry way. I think SW:D is just a bit cheaper then PoM as well. I'm not sure how multiple PoMs would react to this though.
Xert wrote:
When it goes off it is like a guy from the Salvation Army is ringing for donations right there with us.
Oh crap, now I'm gonna think of this when I hear the SA bellringers outside the supermarket. I'll probably get arrested when I raise my hand and shout "SHADOW WORD DEATH!!"
Edited, Dec 24th 2008 9:25pm by Trylofer
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If PoM comes back to you, SW:D will cause your target damage, cause you damage, cause PoM to heal you and send it on its merry way.
Exactly! Downside is that half the time it just jumps back to you -.-
Trylofer wrote:
If PoM comes back to you, SW:D will cause your target damage, cause you damage, cause PoM to heal you and send it on its merry way.
Wow, I feel so very very nub for not thinking of that.
Dread Lord SunSoarer wrote:
Wow, I feel so very very nub for not thinking of that.
It dawned on me after looking at shadow spell rotations for optimizing dps in raids on the shadowpriest website here. SW:D was included in the rotation, not as a finisher. It took me a second to realize it was ok to take damage because there would be a healer in the group. It took me a lot longer to realize that I could be that healer! /facepalm
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