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#1 Dec 16 2008 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I am leveling a priest as shadow for leveling purposes, but plan to start healing instances soon.

From what I have read I should always have a great heal casting, and cancel as needed.
I am wondering how this will effect my 5 second rule. If the spell is cancelled will I still regen my mana?
#2 Dec 16 2008 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
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From what I have read I should always have a great heal casting, and cancel as needed.
I am wondering how this will effect my 5 second rule. If the spell is cancelled will I still regen my mana?


I dont know how/if this changes when specced discipline, but for holy priests, you only ENTER the inside 5 second regen space when a spell has gone off. Since u are cancelling a greater heal, that 2 seconds or whatever of precast does not count as an actual cast of a spell (since none was casted obviously) and therefore you stay out of the 5 second rule. (which is good)

U regen mana no matter what, whether a spell goes off or not, its the RATE at which u regen that changes. If u cast a spell, then u regen at a certain rate (in combat rate if u will). If u wait for 5 seconds, or proc something that will make your next spell cast free (i.e. inner focus or hoy concentration) you will regen mana at the normal rate (out of combat rate if u will).

Because priests rely greatly on spirit (well at least pre-wotlk), cancel casting becomes a highly effective tool. Imagine you are at 60% mana, you ahve hots on tank, you pop a spirit trinket or something and then pop inner focus. U cancel cast that heal for lets say 7 seconds before finally allowing it to go off. Then you start cancel casting another heal and let it go off 5 seconds later. That is a full 12 seconds that you got of 100% mana regen (plus trinket use).

Is a very effective way for priests to regain mana and pace themselves. not as cool as divine plea for pallies but given the cost of priest spells, its quite an interesting strategy

#3 Dec 16 2008 at 5:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Solohunter wrote:
If the spell is cancelled will I still regen my mana?


Yep. This is the whole point of cancel casting. You get outside the five second rule five seconds after the last time you used mana, and stay outside it until you use mana again - in other words, until a spell that costs mana goes off. Inner Focus and Surge of Light procs can also keep you outside the 5SR.
#4 Dec 17 2008 at 3:14 AM Rating: Decent
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same with concentration..

Only spells that actually consume mana trigger the 5 second rule.
#5 Dec 17 2008 at 3:10 PM Rating: Good
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Holy priests like a little overhealing because of Serendipity--there's no downside to GH for them, so cancel-casting GH is their best option. Discipline priests rely on Rapture to keep their mana up, mostly. The more they're healing, the more mana it returns. Since only actual healing counts, you have to heal efficiently to get good mana return from Rapture. Since disc priests tend not to have the greater heal talents, they often use the Flash Heal glyph and use that as their main heal for less overhealing, with Penance as their OMGHAEL! These fast heals stack Grace faster too.

If they ever fix the Rapture bug that causes PW:S and DA to return mana based on the target's mana pool (which doesn't exist for warrior and DK tanks, nor bear druids either I believe), then crit will reliably boost mana return for disc priests. (It does now if you have a pally tank.) Crit definitely boosts holy mana regen, since it triggers Holy Concentration.

I tend to see Holy priests stacking spirit and Discipline priests stacking int, since rapture returns a percentage of your mana pool.

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