Spotted this quote while reading about upcoming Hunter changes ....
Ghostcrawler wrote "I did say these are not all the hunter changes we're working on. Some we haven't quite worked out yet and others (one exciting one in particular concerning ammo)" .....
What it is i dont know, when its coming i also dont know...... what i do know is, i hope to lucifers left nipple its moving the ammo bag onto the paperdoll !!! sick to death of running out of bag space 20 minutes into a grind.
If thats what it is, i hope they do the same for Warlocks Soul Pouches
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That would be too much to hope for!
I don't care so much about the amount of space I use for ammo, I care about the massive costs. 2 gold per stack of ammo was insane. It's cheaper now, but still.. What other class is required to pay gold to do any DPS at all? (Hunter melee is not DPS)
I so wish I had Thori'dal. It's still only about 40 DPS behind the S5 bow after ammo.
I so wish I had Thori'dal. It's still only about 40 DPS behind the S5 bow after ammo.
LoL I mentioned moving the quiver once on the Bliz forums and I got raped by the trolls...
I agree with you... please please please let us equip the quiver/pouch like a piece of armor instead of losing a bag slot. lol
I agree with you... please please please let us equip the quiver/pouch like a piece of armor instead of losing a bag slot. lol
Ehcks wrote:
It's cheaper now, but still..
Are you not using engineering ammo, like you should?
Engi ammo is the only ammo that tops timeless ammo, and it's also quite a bit more expensive.
On my realm, it ends at roughly 4.5-5g per stack of arrows.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Ehcks wrote:
It's cheaper now, but still..
Are you not using engineering ammo, like you should?
Engi ammo is the only ammo that tops timeless ammo, and it's also quite a bit more expensive.
On my realm, it ends at roughly 4.5-5g per stack of arrows.
Meh, I refuse to use crafted ammo.
I use timeless ammo whenever I do not equip my Thoridal (read when fighting somewhat hard bosses or when I really care about DPS such as Sartharion+3 and Patchwork).
I'm a dps *****.
I hate using crafted ammo because it's that expensive.
But on the other hand, I hate knowing that I could do better even more.
I hate using crafted ammo because it's that expensive.
But on the other hand, I hate knowing that I could do better even more.
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I'm a dps *****.
I hate using crafted ammo because it's that expensive.
But on the other hand, I hate knowing that I could do better even more.
I hate using crafted ammo because it's that expensive.
But on the other hand, I hate knowing that I could do better even more.
Hey, normally I'm searching for every tiny bit of extra DPS I can get (like speccing Leatherworking for the drums before Sunwell and things like that).
However in WotLK most raid encounters are so easy, I don't really have to search for the last 10 or 20 DPS.
Our first kill of Patchwerk took ~3min30seconds (and he has a 7minute enrage timer...). That was with a lot of fresh lvl 80ies and mostly T6 gear.
The last kill took us 10 seconds longer, but we lost our 4 melee dps during the first seconds (I guess our off-tanks or our healers where a bit slow with the hateful strikes).
I don't see the reason to spend ~200g on ammo per raid if you can kill the bosses with 20-22 people well before the enrage.
The only very intense fight is Sartharion with 3 drakes up.
The dps requirements are rather high and having more dps makes this fight easier.
However, we have beaten that encounter already (at least in the 25man version, we have not tried the boss in 10man up to now). Since we are improving our gear day by day, I don't think we will have a hard time with that encounter from now on. Perhaps I'll use the crafted ammo there, but we do not really need it.
Its to bad you guys arent on crushridge i craft free ammo for guildies all the time, heck just this past week i made nesingwary 4000's for the other 2 hunters in the guild and did not even charge them 
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Edited, Dec 13th 2008 8:27am by Gutler
. Edited, Dec 13th 2008 8:27am by Gutler
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Ehcks wrote:
It's cheaper now, but still..
Are you not using engineering ammo, like you should?
Engi ammo is the only ammo that tops timeless ammo, and it's also quite a bit more expensive.
On my realm, it ends at roughly 4.5-5g per stack of arrows.
I just don't notice the cost of ammo when I mine and engineer it myself. That's probably why I'm perpetually broke..
Ehcks wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Ehcks wrote:
It's cheaper now, but still..
Are you not using engineering ammo, like you should?
Engi ammo is the only ammo that tops timeless ammo, and it's also quite a bit more expensive.
On my realm, it ends at roughly 4.5-5g per stack of arrows.
I just don't notice the cost of ammo when I mine and engineer it myself. That's probably why I'm perpetually broke..
In what may be perhaps the oddest of all tradeskill combos, I'm mining/enchanting. So basically, I don't use anything I mine except the occasional crystallized or eternal something-or-other.
Instead, when I'm running low on ammo, I ship a few stacks of bars off to an engineering guildie or friend and voila, I have my ammo for free. Sometimes if my usual engineer isn't available, I seek out another acquaintance with whom I'm not quite good enough friends to ask for freebies, so I send him a 20g tip for 20 ammo kits. 1g for 10 stacks of ammo. And usually I have enough ore left over to sell some, or have some other goody made.
If I need cash, I just grind dailies. Ammo expense just isn't part of my budgeting issues with this arrangement.
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I feel your pain here. I am a miner/eng I make all my own ammo, and it is serious money sink. If you want to base justification for Higher DPS on Gold spent, hunters win. I really don't think any onther class has to spend nearly so much to ensure their top DPS.
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I respectfully disagree. As a miner/engineer, I cross paths with Saronite nodes on a constant basis just flying around doing dailies or whatever. It takes almost no time to drop down and gather it up and then go on my way. When I reach a city, I smelt it, bank or mail it to my bank alt, and that's it. I haven't yet run out of Mammoth Cutters and had to go farm specifically for them.
I understand there's an opportunity cost as to what that Saronite might otherwise earn me at the AH, but it strikes me as whiny to complain about that given how easily gold comes in Northrend.
I understand there's an opportunity cost as to what that Saronite might otherwise earn me at the AH, but it strikes me as whiny to complain about that given how easily gold comes in Northrend.
Takes me less time to farm ten boxes of Saronite Razorheads or Mammoth Cutters than most other engineering items.
Then I make serious cash hawking them in Orgrimmar to the raid Hunters.
Got to love being the ones setting the price.
Then I make serious cash hawking them in Orgrimmar to the raid Hunters.
Got to love being the ones setting the price.
Scholar
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At best Blizz needs to create a 67.5 DPS Rep round somewhere. Any hunter that is raiding can easily go thru 3000-4000 rounds in a night. On my server that costs 50-75 gold. Tell ya what increase the repair bill of a warrior, druid or any other class by that amount of cash and their would be public outcry about the cost of raiding. As I see it raiding hunters are forced to fund mining economics.
Well, the price will lower as the demand goes high enough that more and more people go engineering. Not to mention that the income is going to increase the way it did steadily through TBC, so 50 gold will be far less in a month than it is now. Personally, I like that Engineering suddenly have an actual use in a trading scenario. Earlier, you might get a scope or three sold and then you were worthless to both the guild and everyone else.
Wooh, go Frost Grenades.
The way it is now, Engineering actually serves a purpose. It used to be crap, trade wise, and now suddenly we have the means to provide the guild (and out of guild) Hunters with the finest ammunition in the game. Still, the prices are somewhat exorbitant, but who am I to complain? I'm the one raking in the dough. You Hunters bought my Rogue's first Epic Flyer. Go you...
Wooh, go Frost Grenades.
The way it is now, Engineering actually serves a purpose. It used to be crap, trade wise, and now suddenly we have the means to provide the guild (and out of guild) Hunters with the finest ammunition in the game. Still, the prices are somewhat exorbitant, but who am I to complain? I'm the one raking in the dough. You Hunters bought my Rogue's first Epic Flyer. Go you...
I don't know about you guys, but the story on upcoming lock changes is giving me hope that they do away with shards taking up bag space, which will hopefully lead to the same thing for bullets.
Article link here in case you don't go to the front page:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=16519
Article link here in case you don't go to the front page:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=16519
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