Latest Warrior changes Follow

Removed? I thought warriors were teh overpoweredzor before it ever got a hit penalty and that was the reason it came to be in the first place.

I should be crying since I play rogue, but I actually like this change (even though it doesn't benefit me at all). Titan's Grip seems like a solid talent now, not just some 'change of playstyle that requires you to gear a bit differently'.

The TG change is more of a buff for lesser-geared warriors, or for leveling. As robertlofthouse explained, overcoming the hit penalty really wasn't difficult at all, once you started collecting some gear. The problem was that the spec sucked without any hit gear. Prior to this change, there's no way that you'd go TG at 60 because of the complete lack of hit rating available to you. This change makes fury a lot more fun for leveling.

Yeah, keeping a decent amount of hit is probably still a good idea, and is probably something you'll still see warriors doing regardless (and without gemming for it too), which is why I laugh at all the "OMG .. TG is soooo OP now ... wait for the Nerf" comments ... face it, it's not going to change things much, if at all.

wrt the bloodsurge proc ... assume a 40% crit rate, with the old Bloodsurge that's a 40% chance to proc off BT every 5 secs. A 20% chance on hit means that your chance for it to proc OFF BT is halved. Add to that a 20% chance (x2) to proc off WW every 10 secs (which can loosely translate to a 20% chance x1 every 5 secs), you're back at your 40% chance. So taking BT and WW into consideration, all things are equal ... as soon as you weave in a single HS, your chance improves (fractionally, but it improves)

Sooo, yeah, all that being said ... the overall proc rate won't improve that much (assuming 40% crit, which may be a bit low for a raider), it may even make it all come out equal as Mentioned ... but what it does allow is a more spread out use of the ability, allowing slight better rage management.

All in all, this is a fury playability buff patch, not a fury DPS buff patch ...

Oh yeah, in another change, I see that BT now refunds 1% of max health for the next 3 hits after a BT strike, as opposed to 0.6% health for the next 5 hits. Same amount of HP gain, but over 60% of the hits it used to take. Again ... a playability buff, not really anything major.

Crits are not going to play a role in the setup here, so while the above situation may indeed arise, it will only do so if your BT and WW hits proc (at 20% - 40% (for 2 WW's) chance) bloodsurge ... ie, you're not guarenteeing 2 insta slams when you pop reclessness.