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glyph of vigor (if you have it specced) gives you 10 extra energy (120 total). It's nice.

Well, just you is wrong. One point in imp poisons is pointless.

If you're using the right weapons then WP > DP (if you're not using envenom).

Edited, Dec 10th 2008 6:46pm by Kavekk

The point in Quick Recovery as well as the points in Imp Evis would need to be moved to Imp Poisons for raiding. Other wise, looks just about right. QR might seem like a good idea, but it's just wasted points for raiding. And I realize that Evis looks tempting, but it isn't quite as good in a raid situation as we might like. Envenom ignores armor, which is super awesome for bosses as well as some trash. For all of Evis' potential, it has to deal with mitigation and that makes us sad pandas. Oh! Remember to move the points from TtT to MP if you don't have a regular retadin or shammy along for the buff as well.

The basic rotation you have is pretty much how things start off on boss fights. For trash I don't usually bother with stealth unless the mobs need to be stunned. But with Mutilate it's not a question of rotations. It's a question of priorities (HfB > SnD > Rupture). After opening and the first Muti (regardless of poison application, you need to start getting combo points) I'll usually pop SnD. But you can do it right after the opener. I just find that the added time to the first SnD gives me time to get a 4+ Rupture and a 4+ Envenom off before SnD's timer falls off while not being too close to the first refresh of HfB (which causes Energy issues). Which then sets up plenty of energy for the next bunch of fun. Note that I'm glyphed and talented for SnD currently though.

Grrr... the timing is somewhat hard to explain. But you'll see for yourself when you get in there.

Good luck and here's to phat lootz!

I have to disagree a bit here. If you're initial SnD isn't lasting long enough to get refreshed via Envenom/Evis, it (Env/Evis) should move to before the first Rupture rather than after. That way you're only losing a bit of Rupture uptime instead. Needing to use a second SnD denies you the all of the damage from a finisher. Don't know about you, but that's around 9k average from a lost Envenom for me. That's no small chunk to sacrifice.

With that said though, I did mention that I'm talented and glyphed for SnD which adds a good amount of time to it. So... grain of salt. ;)

edited for clarity

Edited, Dec 11th 2008 2:59pm by TherionSaysWhat

That seems about right actually.

Only thing I can think of would be faster daggers.

Your hit's a bit low with that PvP gear. Getting up to the 315 poison hit cap will help a bit. Also, every upgrade will be noticed in your raid DPS. We're very gear (and raid buff) dependent for our damage.

Other than that.... sorry buddy but welcome to LK raiding. Rogues are still a bit gimped in raids. Even with all my upgrades (several best in slot) it's tough to compete with the hunters and mages. Blizz has mentioned that they're aware of our issues and are looking into rogue raid DPS. But I haven't seen any serious changes coming down the pipe just yet. Unless you count removing the cooldown from Fan of Knives, which, um, yeah.....


... OMG my sides ACHE from the laughter......

Cheers!

Hold the phone.

Let's get something straight from a mechanics perspective.

Imp Poisons increases proc chance.

Hit decreases resist chance. This is what Precision (talent) does.

So "getting Deadly Poison to land" is hit; it has nothing to do with proc chance.

Unless you were just using the wrong terminology, in which case, "getting DP to proc" would be much better.

Getting it to "land" implies getting it on the target without resists.

Nitpicking, but it confused me, and I'm worried that some people don't know the difference between spell hit and proc%.

Looks good enough, though if you're raiding primarially naxx drop the points in murder (imp evis has been mentioned) and pick up 5/5 imp poisons. I'm also fairly partial to fleet footed. 15% run speed on movement fights is handy, though if you have an uholy DK there's no point.

In my half-decent heroic/70/naxx 10 gear, I'm getting 2k instant poison crits raid buffed and over 1k deadly poison ticks at 5 stacks. It's really hard to argue against having more of those. (hit 6k ap with double mongoose procs, flask, raid buffs and mirror of truth going =D)

Only reason to use wound/wound over ip/deadly is if you're below 2500 ap raid buffed. Which, if you are, you pretty much need to level past 70.