I've heard that for the most part, haste isn't that great for death knights. Like many other classes, however, there is an abundance of haste on WotLK gear.
So how usefull is haste really? Good to stack, or just not a bad stat? Is there a threshold for when haste is good until you get to xx% haste? Is it better for 2handers than dual wield specs? I haven't been able to find much info on the value of haste for death knights and thought I'd see what you guys have found.
Edited, Dec 10th 2008 12:58pm by uzemaki
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Haste is terrible for DKs. About 15% of our damage comes from white damage, which makes haste point for point the weakest in itemization.
haste is better for DW then 2H
but easily one of, if not THE, worst stat in terms of item value:dps gain
but easily one of, if not THE, worst stat in terms of item value:dps gain
mongoosexcore wrote:
haste is better for DW then 2H
but easily one of, if not THE, worst stat in terms of item value:dps gain
but easily one of, if not THE, worst stat in terms of item value:dps gain
Right; I try not to talk about DW specs until I have the gear to try it out or you, Tyr, or one of the other raiding DKs can try it out and give feedback based on where their gear is, because there's a lot of info flying around that really shouldn't be. I need exact numbers to work with, because while I can see DKs putting up high numbers as DW, I haven't see any put up numbers higher than they would if they were using a 2h.
But yes, haste is a lot better for DW. Hence why you go mostly frost (but really a trispec, something like this) when you DW. Killing Machine and BCB procs will hopefully make up for the damage you lose going away from a 2h build.
Anyway, all that's beside the point. Haste is a poor stat for DKs unless you know what you're doing, in which case you wouldn't need to ask about it.
I got Hatestrike last week in 10 man Naxx since they was no rogue. I figured if I got a good MH, I'd try DW Tri-spec.
However, it could be a while...
However, it could be a while...
I dont entirely agree with everyone else,
as frost dk, the haste does make difference when raiding, ur rotation is alot quicker (292 haste rating atm - 10% roughly), combined with icy talons, gives me a global cooldown of about 1,3 seconds and 30% faster melee swings.
especially the global cooldown is nice to have, since ur spamming skills pretty fast anyway :P
Hitcap is more important, than crit, but if u cant avoid the haste, love it :P
(about the percentage, my melee hits are between 22 and 25% of my damage atm)
Edited, Dec 15th 2008 1:40pm by Chamassa
as frost dk, the haste does make difference when raiding, ur rotation is alot quicker (292 haste rating atm - 10% roughly), combined with icy talons, gives me a global cooldown of about 1,3 seconds and 30% faster melee swings.
especially the global cooldown is nice to have, since ur spamming skills pretty fast anyway :P
Hitcap is more important, than crit, but if u cant avoid the haste, love it :P
(about the percentage, my melee hits are between 22 and 25% of my damage atm)
Edited, Dec 15th 2008 1:40pm by Chamassa
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