Advice on my DKFollow

woooow What the heck kind of spec is THAT? And what's with all the haste gear? You, sir, are a certified deathtard. Congratulations. I will, however, still help you with some recommended builds.

Blood
Unholy
Frost

Pick one.

Missed Dilbrt post xD

Come on nothing. Sorry but if someone doesn't know how to play, it's fair game to tell them.... they don't know how to play. It's like coming across a DK in full spell power gear. Do you think I'll walk up to them be all warm and fuzzy and politely explain to them that spell power isn't good? Nope. I'm one of those that laugh, call them a deathtard, and carry on with my life. There are SOOOOO many guides out there and FAQs out there that completely explain every aspect of playing a DK, from what spells to use in what order, to what stats you need, to what specs you should try. If you can't handle google, then you're fair game for me.

Come into these forums and ask "what are the appropriate stats?" I'll answer.
Come into these forums and ask "what are some good builds for X?" I'll answer.
Come into these forums and post the worst spec that you can humanly come up with, and I'll eat you alive.

Gee apparently you have never been asked for “constructive advice” before Dilbrt
If I wanted to be called a “Death-tard” I would have asked my 10yo daughter or my 18yo son.
I am new to the class (as is everyone) and I figured I may not have it right so I asked for help. I have read a bunch on the class, but there is no real definitive answer I have found regarding what is a “bad” build I guess I do now thanks to more intelligent responses.
As far as my build I put the points in UH so I could get the Ghoul as a permanent pet.
Then I went into blood for the dps/healing ability.
After running with a group last night, seeing the stats and giving it some thought I may have been off base and it looks like I was.
In reference to my gear I have what I have from rewards and drops I have steered away from rewards that gave me int or mana re-gen for obvious reasons.
I replace my gear with items that have more appropriate stats when I get them, this I do understand.
So, to the people that did not act like elitist 12 year old jerks. Thank you I will be re-tuning my DK tonight after work.

DS

Can you quantify this statement please? Or link to where the analysis of this stat weight order was made?

Thanks. =D

EDIT: Best analysis I can find puts stat weights at: Hit > Str > Exp > Crit > etc. (see Alla's wiki page, sourced I believe from EJ's thread)

Edited, Dec 8th 2008 1:27pm by TherionSaysWhat

These are just examples:

Leveling build (as per Jame from Jame's guide fame)

LVL 80 DPS Builds (as per Theo from these boards)

LVL 80 DPS build (as per Elitist Jerks)

Personally, I have found that Unholy has better survivability than Blood, but play what you enjoy the most.

Hey doorslammer,

you say u use the healing abilities alot?
What way are u working through the mobs?
I lvled to 80 as frost, and xcept some elites i never used a single heal in fights, except when i accidently pulled more than 3-4 mobs.
I think that if you are needing the selfheals, you are lacking the damage to kill mobs fast enough, which totally would be solved by going deep into unholy or frost, on the other hand, if u like single target more you should go blood :)

Theres enough specs on the boards to try, but for a lvl 74 id personally go for:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfmMZZfM0htfkxcq0csut - Unholy without tanking talents
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZ0xZfgzhtfkxcq0csut - Unholy with tanking talents (if u wanna go this way, make sure to read more about it, im a silly noob if it comes to unholy tanking)
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=j0xzZGxxthczRhRVosx0g - Frost tank/dps (yea i dont think you should be frost without tanking talents :P your gonna get alot of them anyway, and its easy and great tanking)

I understand what you were going for with your build. The thing you have to understand is most people at high levels turn into min/maxers. They go for 1 spec and make it the best(tanking,AOE or DPS) and your spec did none of that. Leveling wise(pure questing) your idea is fine. I have seen many people go 26 deep into unholy for the perma ghoul and then sink everything else into blood, and that works well for pure leveling. If you are raiding/tanking/spending every waking moment in instances, then that build is going to underperform. Your problem were the talents you chose. If you really really really wanted a perma ghoul and only planned to quest your way to 80, then I would go for something like this http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight=2305021533003313200230013000000000000000000000000000000230200305023113000100000000000&glyph=000000000000
You could get rid of aura and go hysteria and sudden doom if you like. That is more along the lines of what you wanted. But I will reiterate, this is not going to max your DPS nor is it going to max your AOE as you would still do better going full blood or unholy, but for questing and leveling up, it would work fine. You lose blood gorged and DRW but have gargoyle and a perma pet to add some dps, while keeping most core healing skills and mark of blood.