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I'd try it out, especially with how mobile the fights are, and how often ghouls die.

Let us know how it turns out. (I'm getting closer to Naxx...slowly...still only 77. )

Edited, Dec 6th 2008 12:13am by Theophany

He's actually talking about not using Desecration at all, and putting those 3 points into Night of the Dead and Necrosis (because he has 3 points in currently).

Something you may want to think about as well, Tyr, is dropping Virulence if you have it. I had a discussion with a DK by the name of Soup on the oboards about it, and he's been doing Naxx25 without it and he says he's not had one resisted/missed DC yet. If you really stop and think about it, how many DCs do you get off per boss? 8? 10? With a 2% chance per DC, the odds of you getting a miss/resist are very, very small, and (IMO) not worth the 3 points.

No idea; I still have no idea what I'll be playing for 10 mans.

Hell, I barely know what I'll be doing for PvP! (Though 44/0/27 is looking more and more promising...)

I actually raided as blood a lot last week.

I'm thinking about trying Frost next week.

if i ever get to 80, ill be dps'ing as frost lol

i need to play more... DAMN YOU GGPO! STEAL MY LIFE AWAY VIA ONLINE FIGHTING ACTION!

hehe

in regards to the dps build, i was considering a build like that, but considering the RP generation of the build, and Rime procs in the rp dump section of the rotation, you wont have 100% disease uptime even ideally

like i doubt you could adapt the second part of the rotation to OB OB OB FS-dump considering rime procs, makes the rune regen timing screwy probably

a build like that kind of makes sense, just dunno if in practice its the same as it is on paper



as for your pvp build... no chillblains? frost aura over merciless combat? no imp icy touch?

i know u gotta cut points somewhere... but i dont think i could pvp without chillblains and merc combat lol

and more disease up time... meh making use of it would be tight, cuz youd hafta be on em the full duration of 2 rotations to make good use from it

and the whole disease cleansing thing would make that investment completely useless

depends on your arena partner i guess... prob works well with a rogue in 2s or 3s given all the avail cc a rogue brings

Edited, Dec 7th 2008 2:52am by mongoosexcore

With Epidemic, you can get 1-2 more Oblits every two rotation cycles. That's definitely some kind of DPS increase, and I'd be really interested in seeing how that would compare to the Frost DPS build with Bladed Armor and Dark Conviction maxed. At what point, I guess is what I'm wondering, does the DPS increase from using stronger abilities more often match, exceed, or fail to meet the raw DPS increases from the extra crit and AP over in Blood. Plus, there's something to be said for all the mobility required even in normal five-man instances now, let alone raids. I'm convinced Epidemic would yield some kind of DPS increase in mobile fights as well through facilitation, though I have no idea how you'd calculate that and compare it to Bladed Armor/Dark Conviction other than hands-on testing.

You seem to be finding out a lot of the same things, wondering about the same things, and coming to the same conclusions about Frost that I have, Theo. That's... honestly terrifying.

Edited, Dec 7th 2008 3:43am by Gaudion

What is a better ability, Dancing Rune Weapon, or Gargoyle?

Depends on gear level and weapon. Once you get to the epic weapons (~186 DPS or so) DRW seems to pull away from Garg.

That's just what I've seen, though.

There aren't many other places you can put those points that would be any better. They're at least doing some good in Blood Aura, though I guess if you glyph Rune Tap, IRT would be a decent choice (though only in emergency situations; you don't want to be Tapping while you're on a boss, save it for when you're in a phase when you can't get to a boss or you're running).

Okay, so tonight my guild and I were in Zul'Gurub, and at the end of it all (we just tried for the raptor and tiger mounts, so it was a partial run) my DPS was 453.8

Is that good for a level 63 Blood DK?

My armory.

Sorry if I'm sounding a touch cynical here, but should I deduce from this that you'll do the same DPS regardless of spec, or are more changes going to come to the FAQ which clarifies this.

If it is indeed the case (all pretty much equal), then why choose one over the other ... playstyle would obviously be the deciding factor.

This leads me to a question, what makes the playstyles different, my take is :
1) Blood = single target DPS, buffs and heals.
2) Unholy, DoTs and diseases, AOE, auxiliary dps from the permaghoul.
3) Frost .. freezing/control .. burst ??

Dunno ... anyone care to clarify