Was just wondering what a BM hunter should be at stat wise before entering Naxx. I'm new to raiding with my hunter and don't no much about mins. and maxs.
SO what is the hit cap in WOTLK?
Is there a haste that we shoudl be aiming for?
Is there an armor pen. we shoudl be shooting for?
And what kind of stats should a BM hunter have before entering nax?
Thanks in advanced
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Hit cap: depends on whether or not you take the focused aim talent in MM tree. Without the talent, it's 295. With, it's 197.
Haste: my personal opinion is, given a choice, I avoid it. But if I was raiding naxx and a T7 piece (all 5 pieces have haste) dropped that would replace a quest reward blue, I'd take the T7 piece. As BM, haste has no effect on your steady shot, unless you have a crappy quiver or a crappy build. It still affects your auto shots, so it isn't a completely worthless stat.
Armor pen: I've heard this isn't a very useful stat, but that might just be a rumor. I guess it depends on how much armor the bosses have and how much they're being reduced by via debuffs. I haven't noticed too much of this stat on heroic or raid gear, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Stats: no idea, honestly. As far as I'm concerned, if you have raid experience and remotely decent gear, you should be able to do naxx. I'd still try to gear up in heroics first, though. Looking through the gear list, there are quite a few good items that drop in heroic violet hold, utgarde pinnacle and keep, and nexus.
Haste: my personal opinion is, given a choice, I avoid it. But if I was raiding naxx and a T7 piece (all 5 pieces have haste) dropped that would replace a quest reward blue, I'd take the T7 piece. As BM, haste has no effect on your steady shot, unless you have a crappy quiver or a crappy build. It still affects your auto shots, so it isn't a completely worthless stat.
Armor pen: I've heard this isn't a very useful stat, but that might just be a rumor. I guess it depends on how much armor the bosses have and how much they're being reduced by via debuffs. I haven't noticed too much of this stat on heroic or raid gear, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Stats: no idea, honestly. As far as I'm concerned, if you have raid experience and remotely decent gear, you should be able to do naxx. I'd still try to gear up in heroics first, though. Looking through the gear list, there are quite a few good items that drop in heroic violet hold, utgarde pinnacle and keep, and nexus.
As BM, Aim for:
9% hit, including talents but if possible without talents.
Hit because it now transfers to pet, and the talented hit should but it is unclear whether it truly does transfer.
3k AP, simple enough.
Gem for Attack power, because of the scaling with TSA/the DK buff and the fact that it transfers to your pet.
15% crit, higher if possible.
13-14k HP, 9-10k mana.
Haste: nearly useless, ignore/avoid it.
Armor pen: slightly better than haste, but not really worth it either.
As MM: I'd say
5% hit, more if possible.
Same deal as before, only your pet isn't 50% of your dps.
3.5k AP, shouldn't be too hard to reach.
20% crit, enough crit boosting talents to get this.
9-10k mana, 13-14k HP.
As SV: respec.
9% hit, including talents but if possible without talents.
Hit because it now transfers to pet, and the talented hit should but it is unclear whether it truly does transfer.
3k AP, simple enough.
Gem for Attack power, because of the scaling with TSA/the DK buff and the fact that it transfers to your pet.
15% crit, higher if possible.
13-14k HP, 9-10k mana.
Haste: nearly useless, ignore/avoid it.
Armor pen: slightly better than haste, but not really worth it either.
As MM: I'd say
5% hit, more if possible.
Same deal as before, only your pet isn't 50% of your dps.
3.5k AP, shouldn't be too hard to reach.
20% crit, enough crit boosting talents to get this.
9-10k mana, 13-14k HP.
As SV: respec.
Heroics are a good way to get ready. From what I've heard, Naxx is a little more forgiving in gear that Kara was, but I wouldn't suggest going in with more than 2-3 green items if your group has never seen Naxx.
Really good heroics for hunters are:
The Nexus - the last boss drops 4 really good items
Utgarde Keep - Helm and Xbow from final boss (Best-in-slot until Naxx)
Violet Hold - Cloak, belt and gun
Stratholme - Ring, quest-reward gloves, gun
And probably a few others. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They're also on the easier end of heroics.
While you're doing heroics, make sure you Champion for rep. Go for Knights of the Ebon Blade first for a TON of gear and helm enchant, then Argent Crusade for the epic chest and boots. The chest from AC rep is arguably better than 10-man T7 for BM hunters since it replaces the haste with more useful stats like Agi, Int, and Hit. Wyrmrest Accord also has a 1h sword at Honored that is pretty good. It only took me 3 or 4 heroics worth of championing to get from 1% friendly to Honored. The 2h Sword from Ebon Blade is better, though.
Really good heroics for hunters are:
The Nexus - the last boss drops 4 really good items
Utgarde Keep - Helm and Xbow from final boss (Best-in-slot until Naxx)
Violet Hold - Cloak, belt and gun
Stratholme - Ring, quest-reward gloves, gun
And probably a few others. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They're also on the easier end of heroics.
While you're doing heroics, make sure you Champion for rep. Go for Knights of the Ebon Blade first for a TON of gear and helm enchant, then Argent Crusade for the epic chest and boots. The chest from AC rep is arguably better than 10-man T7 for BM hunters since it replaces the haste with more useful stats like Agi, Int, and Hit. Wyrmrest Accord also has a 1h sword at Honored that is pretty good. It only took me 3 or 4 heroics worth of championing to get from 1% friendly to Honored. The 2h Sword from Ebon Blade is better, though.
ProjectMidnight wrote:
Go for Knights of the Ebon Blade first for a TON of gear and helm enchant
I only saw the shoulders to be honest.
The sword is funny, but getting 2x Savage Cobalt Slicer is much better.
You should still champion them first though, just for the head enchant.
When you hit revered (you can get close with just questing I think) champion Argent Crusade for the Cloak > Gun > Chest (+boots)
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
As MM: I'd say
5% hit, more if possible.
Same deal as before, only your pet isn't 50% of your dps.
3.5k AP, shouldn't be too hard to reach.
20% crit, enough crit boosting talents to get this.
9-10k mana, 13-14k HP.
None of those stats would be hard to reach. Just a few days at 80, got enough rep, ran enough heroics (championing in heroics makes rep grind SO much faster), and I'm just shy of 3900 AP, almost 11K mana, about 16K HP and 25% crit (good enchants and gems help). That's as MM, and including AoDH (with improved aspects) and TSA. The only thing I'm having a hard time raising is my hit (sitting at around 125 hit rating). I'd love to spend those 3 points in careful aim on something else. Just getting started....
Frankly, I've yet to see a "hard" heroic. I think I actually trapped twice in idk how many runs. I'm a little disappointed at how easy it is.
Just a shame Naxx is a far off dream anyway for me. Late night only play ftl.
Edited, Nov 30th 2008 3:41pm by Steelray
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
lots of gear? where?
I only saw the shoulders to be honest.
I only saw the shoulders to be honest.
Eh. Maybe I should have said "a bunch of stuff" because head enchant, shoulders, 2h weapon and leather chest is still a lot to get from 1 faction. They're not worth running to exalted, though. The chest from Argent Crusade is better.
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