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something doesnt seem right. currently at lvl 78 i popped some daggers in my hands and my crit chance went down over 5%. seems odd since i hadnt changed anything and i am specced into CQC and malice. and with my fist weapon in my main hand i gain more then 5% crit. wondering if this happened to anyone else. i even respecced to watch my crit changce go up with every point i put into those 2 talents and cannot figure it out. are fists giving a double crit bonus since the new patch or something by mistake? i have the badge fists and at lvl 70 with good epics had over 34% crit with malice and CQC and at 78 it went down to close to 28% which is normal while lvling. but as soon as i pop a dagger in my main hand it drops to barely over 22%. does anyone have any insight as to why this is happening? if so please fill me in.
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just some more info. it doesnt have anything to do with my skill. both are maxed for my lvl. and even when i unlearn all of my talents equiping a fist weapon in my main hand still gives me over 5% crit chance increase. i find this odd. fist weapons do not have a natural crit increase for some reason do they? please any info on this would be appreciated.
Your chance to critically hit is less with weapons you have little skill with.
Edited, Nov 27th 2008 1:35am by Jonofthedead
Edited, Nov 27th 2008 1:35am by Jonofthedead
Link to your armory.
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Jonofthedead wrote:
Your chance to critically hit is less with weapons you have little skill with.
aangst wrote:
. it doesnt have anything to do with my skill. both are maxed for my lvl.
Hmmm ... I wonder who's side I should take here
Dunno Aangst, if your skill is really maxed (pretty much the only reason I can see for the different), then I dunno.
You arnen't by any chance equipping daggers that have considerably less Agi and/or crit on them, or perhaps your current weapons have an Agi enchant, or maybe a combo of both (pretty obvious, but hey - that's the only other possibility)
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http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dawnbringer&n=Angst
there is my current armory. after i unlearned my talents with fists im at 17% crit. and as soon as it updates with daggers in my hands i will post that as well.
some more background info- i noticed a 5% crit chance gain with the free respec they gave out right before wolk hit. i pretty much dismissed it because it was in my favor and i thought maybe the fist weapon talent in the combat tree wasnt working properly and when they combined fist and daggers into one talent somehow it started working. but now when i equip daggers it drops 5%.
it doesnt have to do with the talent because even untalented there is a 5% difference which i find odd. i also picked up some vendor fists weapons at an npc and same thing was happening. so it cant be just the badge fists i was using.
i would really appreciate help figuring this out from some of the more knowledgeable posters out there
there is my current armory. after i unlearned my talents with fists im at 17% crit. and as soon as it updates with daggers in my hands i will post that as well.
some more background info- i noticed a 5% crit chance gain with the free respec they gave out right before wolk hit. i pretty much dismissed it because it was in my favor and i thought maybe the fist weapon talent in the combat tree wasnt working properly and when they combined fist and daggers into one talent somehow it started working. but now when i equip daggers it drops 5%.
it doesnt have to do with the talent because even untalented there is a 5% difference which i find odd. i also picked up some vendor fists weapons at an npc and same thing was happening. so it cant be just the badge fists i was using.
i would really appreciate help figuring this out from some of the more knowledgeable posters out there
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ok here is another bit of strange info. and maybe another rogue out there can try this one and see what they get.
untalented with no gear on @ lvl 78 rogues should all be very similar.
with an npc vendor dagger i have 2.22% crit
with an npc vendor fist i have 7.14% crit
something is wrong here. i feel like i am receiving a "magical" 5% crit bonus whenever i use fist weapons. im not complaining just find it really weird. or is it somehting i am totally missing? not sure really but for now i may stay combat fists
untalented with no gear on @ lvl 78 rogues should all be very similar.
with an npc vendor dagger i have 2.22% crit
with an npc vendor fist i have 7.14% crit
something is wrong here. i feel like i am receiving a "magical" 5% crit bonus whenever i use fist weapons. im not complaining just find it really weird. or is it somehting i am totally missing? not sure really but for now i may stay combat fists
Ok,
any enchants? agi?
try different daggers maybe the ones you are using are bugged and not flagged as 'daggers'
likewise try different fists.
there's always a possibility one is bugged and giving you some kind of crit stacking bonus, or maybe the +%Crit for fists is being added once for each fist weapon due to a bug.
these are all possibilities, but if your skills are maxed with both and talents + gear are identical with similar weapon stats, after that its probably a bug
any enchants? agi?
try different daggers maybe the ones you are using are bugged and not flagged as 'daggers'
likewise try different fists.
there's always a possibility one is bugged and giving you some kind of crit stacking bonus, or maybe the +%Crit for fists is being added once for each fist weapon due to a bug.
these are all possibilities, but if your skills are maxed with both and talents + gear are identical with similar weapon stats, after that its probably a bug
EnthalpyTheBurninator wrote:
Ok,
any enchants? agi?
try different daggers maybe the ones you are using are bugged and not flagged as 'daggers'
likewise try different fists.
there's always a possibility one is bugged and giving you some kind of crit stacking bonus, or maybe the +%Crit for fists is being added once for each fist weapon due to a bug.
these are all possibilities, but if your skills are maxed with both and talents + gear are identical with similar weapon stats, after that its probably a bug
any enchants? agi?
try different daggers maybe the ones you are using are bugged and not flagged as 'daggers'
likewise try different fists.
there's always a possibility one is bugged and giving you some kind of crit stacking bonus, or maybe the +%Crit for fists is being added once for each fist weapon due to a bug.
these are all possibilities, but if your skills are maxed with both and talents + gear are identical with similar weapon stats, after that its probably a bug
I think you're missing something ... currently, his armory shows him devoid of talents and gear, except for a common quality fist weapon with no stats, and his crit is 7%. If he leaves everything the same and equips a common quality dagger with no stats, his crit is 2%....
To the OP .... sorry mate, can't help you ... it does seem very wierd.
I would try it out myself, but there's no way I'm dumping 50g just to test a theory for you ... You understand, don't you ? ;-)
Edited, Nov 27th 2008 9:02pm by robertlofthouse
WoW is trying to tell you to use fists.
It's obviously his weapon skill. That's the only possible explanation.
Since the armory no longer shows weapon skill, it's impossible to tell, but I would place money on that, since there's nothing else that effects crit in such a large way.
Since the armory no longer shows weapon skill, it's impossible to tell, but I would place money on that, since there's nothing else that effects crit in such a large way.
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well thank you all for your replies. but i assure you theo it is not a skill issue. didnt realize you cant see weapon skill on the armory anymore.
i think banatu is correct so hopefully i can get the greed fist to drop from the new heroic CoT.
until next time all
i think banatu is correct so hopefully i can get the greed fist to drop from the new heroic CoT.
until next time all
Here's a thought ... tell us what your dagger and fist weapon skills are ....
Yes, it's a trick question, but still ... since we can't see them in the armory, type them out here. To be maxed out at 78, they should both be 390/390.
I agree with Theo, it's the only possible explanation.
Yes, it's a trick question, but still ... since we can't see them in the armory, type them out here. To be maxed out at 78, they should both be 390/390.
I agree with Theo, it's the only possible explanation.
aangst wrote:
well thank you all for your replies. but i assure you theo it is not a skill issue.
Except that you removed every variable that it could possibly be other than weapon skill.
You went 0/0/0. You took off all of your gear. The only thing left is external buffs and weapon skill, so excluding you getting LotP, it's your weapon skill.
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