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what kind of gear would an enhance shammy wear: int, str, sta, agi, etc. Thanks for your help :D

With the new Talent in enhance, we get AP from intellect now, so that's good for a lot more now. Strength no longer gives 2 AP per.

For the most part....yes.

That being said you can almost write str out of the equation "like" a hunter. Str does give AP to melee hits (as it does the same for hunters, but for obvious reasons...isn't needed for them), but the difference is that we get ONLY AP from str. Unlike, agi (AP, Crit & armor) or int (AP & MP max), which adjust other stats ON TOP of giving us the same ratio of AP.

Yes, you can argue that str also modifies shield block rate, blah blah blah...but I mean seriously! Does that HELP use in our roles? :P ....plz don't say, "It helps us tank!" (thats not a valid answer...)

On a side note, I notice so far on my chanter that many of the "newer" chants lean toward straight up AP on gloves, bracers, etc...not STR. Also seams that gear itemization leans to AP, agi, and int on mail rewards, I haven't seen str on mail yet. I'm sure I might come along some, especially in old world content (which is just stuff blizz probably "over-looked" as usual...Ive found random drops like shields with +shadow dmg....I MEAN REALLY! Blizz do you even edit anything?!). But Northrend wise, itemization seems to have walked away from "old" enh gear sets.

So, in conclusion, enh is just a melee hunter w/ a "occational" pet(s), and traps that last londer :p

Any enh shaman thats running STR builds still are just either jurassic throw-backs to of a by gone era, that enjoys ignorance, and/or new/newb shaman's that didn't read the beta patch/live patch notes a few months back to when the AP equations were changed :P

I'm leveling my shaman right now, and thinking for PVP strength isn't utterly useless. We all know shamans can deal massive burst, but they're squishy and can drop fast with melee on them. Having a shield swap macro for when you're getting focused can be the difference between life and death. I know alot of players will gear for max DPS without really thinking it through, but think about it. In PVP you want some survivability, and the trade-off usually means sacrificing a little damage.

Maybe I'm wrong here, and I'm not writing off agi for PVP. I'm just thinking I'd want to balance strength a little more on my PVP gear then most PVE shamans would. It's only useful when wearing a shield, but I think I'll be wearing a shield quite a bit by using a hot-swap macro.

My bad, I looked at my shaman and realized it just added some extra mitigation through block, not actual block %


And I looked at the PVP set ( http://www.wowhead.com/?search=hateful+gladiator%27s+linked ), no strength on it at all. Which is probably a good thing.

decided to move this...

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 4:52pm by Jebadia

Int will give you AP, but Agi will give you crit and AP, which is still better.

To be honest, the idea of stressing Int in any way, shape, or form, is almost moot. Some of your mail armor pieces will have Int on them, but very nearly every other piece of gear you're going to wear is going to consist entirely of melee stats, so it's most often going to come down to a choice between hit, Str, AP, Agi, crit rating, etc. Int is more or less a beneficial by-product.

You miss the point of elemental devastation. While agi is a good stat to have I would not gem for it. You crit with spells you get 9% crit with melee. So gem for straight crit (16ap-8crit or 16crit) as it helps both melee and spell crits. If you're lacking in the hit department you gem for hit instead. You can't crit if you're not hitting.

When you are going for gear the stats you want to look for are ap>hit>crit>expertise. All gear you get will have agi/int/stam on it. AP = 30% of your spell power. The more ap you have the bigger your lightning bolts/shocks will be.

From the theorycrafting I've been reading so far, it's looking like 99 hit and 214 expertise is what your aiming for to start. That will cap your SS and WF hits as well as stop dodge/parries from rolling across the screen. Gem for those numbers above all others. Once you have that then start raising your +hit up to cap which is 367. This will cap your lash, shock, and LB as well as help out your white damage. Early numbers where that white damage was about 35% of your overall DPS.

Since I went resto at 79 and have only raided as resto, the 367 number seems impossible to me. However, after picking up then enh T7 legs in vault, then getting another chest token in 10 man naxx, I decided a few days ago to build up a enh set as well. With those two pieces and Pride/Greed weps, I've managed to amass 304 hit and 200 expertise in just a few days.

Just to see the number changes, I put 12 AP gems in my 7 gems slots I had then made 5 passes on the level 80 dummy for 2 min each. After I changed all gems with 8 hit/8 expertise gems and did the same thing. This raised my DPS by about 150 on average.

Figured Id pull this down from the other thread about this....I posted this to help someone else, and now it can perform double duty *wink*

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1 Agi = 1 AP + some crit and armor
1 Str = 1 AP
1 Int = 1.1 AP (if talented correctly) + some mana

so for enhancement =
Hit (until capped at 9% for specials) > Agi > Int > Crit > Expertise (until capped at 205 rating) > Haste > Str > AP
(Str > AP because of kings)

See here (elitist jerks link) for enhance shaman theory crafting on why.