Hunters VS Death KnightsFollow

I've only gone up against a Death Knight once. Maybe the dude was just an idiot, but I killed him... Twice. And he ganked me both times. I did have to pot once, but Intimidation worked well against his minion thing, and big red Gorilla took him down while I was kitting him.

No serpent sting please.

Hunters will have a very hard time against Death Knights. I think Death Knights will really separate the hunters who are good at PVP and those that are not good.

I have both a hunter and dk. Twice I have faced off against a hunter on my dk. The first time, he got me by surprise and i was not really paying attention and he got me. He was being a smart hunter and I was being a dumb dk. he was laying down frost trap and had serpent sting on me the whole time. that was him being smart. me being dumb was not using icy touch with death grip, not using strangulate, not using mind freeze, not using the stun ability of my ghoul.

The strengths of a dk are as follows:
-is that it is a plate wearer.
-it can heal if it hits you ( i have seen heals go off for 2k. this is done via death strike.)
-can have an obscene amount of health and armor (i am lvl 74 right now, and have 12,219 health with 47% dam reduction, if i go frost presence, it goes up to 13,495 health with 58% dam reduction. this is only quest reward greens and blues.)
-they can go unholy presence, that increases their speed by 15%, thereby making it easier to close the gap between them and you.
-they can have a pet, all the specs can get one.
-if they go unholy, they can get bone shield, that reduces all damage by 40% for 4 hits. (so, you can image how little damage you will be doing with auto attack if he goes frost presence and has bone shield up.)
-anti magic zone, nice little bubble of NO magic (arcane shot anyone?)
-my favorite 'oh crap' when tanking: ice bound fortitude. The Death Knight freezes her blood to become immune to Stun effects and reduce all damage taken by 50% for 12 seconds. Does not remove existing Stun effects.

when you look at what they have, they are going to be a very challenging opponent. do NOT, I repeat, do NOT take death knights lightly. they have a lot going for them. since they look for the same gear that warriors look for, you can expect to see death knights with health in the ranges of 15,000 - 20,000 easily.

the best thing for a hunter to do is to use frost traps slow them down, keep that serpent sting up. it will slowly take away life. remember, they can stop any magic in its tracks with anti magic shell, strangulate, and mind freeze, so auto shoot will be your only option. as a plate wearer, that damage will get reduced. keep your distance. i would really have to say, beast master hunters would have the best shot against them.

(by the way, the second encounter i had with a hunter was when i was a bit more aware. I was at a quest giver mounted when they both attacked. I was 72, they were 71 and had a 70 warrior. I ended up killing the warrior in ghoul form. When I made it back to my body, I popped a health pot, killed the hunter in a matter of seconds. Managed to bandage, the warrior rezzed back, killed him. summoned my ghoul and ate to full health, warrior rezzed, another alliance and him attacked me. I sent them both to the grave yard. i was in single digits for health.)

I've really only run into them in Alterac Valley, but they are dangerous. Even one 4 or 5 levels below me is a threat if they catch me one on one.

Fighting deathknights is easy.


Roll over and die.

The only spell I am aware of is Volley. I believe this is still 'magic' damage. I haven't heard from anyone decking out in Shaman gear to get spell bonus to AOE grind with it though.

It doesn't really apply to a PvP scenario, no single target is going to stay in volley radius unless you've stunned them, and then it's still a waste against single target. I have used it in PvP when we were up against a melee centric 5v5 group, it worked well, 2 kills. Does major damage all the way down the line. Volley is not to be scoffed at anymore against multiple targets. I've held my own against our much better geared mage in doing the AOE groups in Kara with the new Volley.

DK's have Death Coil or Death Grip, whatever. Get out of that, trinket, disengage, and they are easy to kite.

That's what I have seen so far. May be user error on there part, however.

One good thing. A lot of the immature tards that used to play Hunters have now gone over to the DK side.

As a 77 Blood DK and a 74 BM Hunter, I'd advise hunters to avoid DK contact unless they are going for the "I've seen all the graveyards" achievement. I have killed hostile DKs, but the odds are against it.

This only ever holds true if you face the kind of DK that earlier played Hunter because it was "zomg zo OP ololol". You have to realize that most DKs around fails at playing their class. This is compounded by the fact that DKs don't get the first 58 levels of learning their class' capability. Thus, most DKs become horrible at PvP.

But when you face a DK that knows what it's doing? Well, you really need every last advantage you can get both gearwise and skillwise. They've quite simply got way too many skills that will negate your own survival skills. Hell, my Rogue eats most Death Knights (literally, it's Forsaken) alive. But when I come up against a skilled DK, it's the hardest fight I can have except for a skilled Retardin.

Go up against Theo for instance. He seems to have a good grasp of the Death Knight class, and I doubt you could "put him on ignore".

Necro posters should die in a fire.