hey
i hope my qustion is not stupid. but i want to know the difference between frost and unholy tanking speccs.
some people say frost is the best tank specc. other say unholy is better...but why? what is the main difference between these 2 speccs?
is one build better for caster, or melee? or for groeps, or for damge? or what?
why do you think some people choose a frost build and other a unholy build?
question to al the people whith a frost buil: why do you choose frost? what do you think is the advantage?
same question to al the unholy people: why do you choose unholy? what do you think is the advantage?
give my an answer^^
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I just posted in the Unholy > Blood post, you can check there for my builds and rotations. I haven't used frost so I can't tell you what Unholy is better at, but I can tell you that with 3 diseases running on the main kill, popping pestilence, blood boil, then unholy blight, I never have a problem with adds running off.
I usually Strangulate a caster, then DG the other (if more than 2 I'll have someone else CC/DG it. If I can I'll just run right into them and use my normal abilities if there is no possibility of pulling adds.
I love Unholy tanking because I get great AoE aggro on all the mobs almost immediately and also do insane dps at the same time.
My endgame proposed build will be much stronger against casters with the anti-magic bubble and stronger against melee with more avoidance talents. I am leveling with more of a DPS build at the moment to get to 80 easier, but at 80 will be well able to tank near anything.
I am 2-handed tanking/dpsing and recommend that to everyone. Never, ever, ever tank with 1 handed weapons. Your miss and parry rate skyrocket. You will take way more damage and put out way less threat. I had a friend yesterday do a few group quests with me just for fun and she was DW'ing two of those footman swords. Her miss rate was 24%. Mine was 1.5%. That's a Huuuuge difference. Plus so many of our abilities are dependent on weapon damage that it just makes sense to me to 2-hand it.
Anyhow, my biggest recommendation to you is to try out both of them. Find a good group (guildies preferred) and try each spec out. See how it works for you. They both work, it's what makes it fun to you that really matters.
Have fun and good luck!
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Edited, Nov 24th 2008 9:10am by Galenmoon
I usually Strangulate a caster, then DG the other (if more than 2 I'll have someone else CC/DG it. If I can I'll just run right into them and use my normal abilities if there is no possibility of pulling adds.
I love Unholy tanking because I get great AoE aggro on all the mobs almost immediately and also do insane dps at the same time.
My endgame proposed build will be much stronger against casters with the anti-magic bubble and stronger against melee with more avoidance talents. I am leveling with more of a DPS build at the moment to get to 80 easier, but at 80 will be well able to tank near anything.
I am 2-handed tanking/dpsing and recommend that to everyone. Never, ever, ever tank with 1 handed weapons. Your miss and parry rate skyrocket. You will take way more damage and put out way less threat. I had a friend yesterday do a few group quests with me just for fun and she was DW'ing two of those footman swords. Her miss rate was 24%. Mine was 1.5%. That's a Huuuuge difference. Plus so many of our abilities are dependent on weapon damage that it just makes sense to me to 2-hand it.
Anyhow, my biggest recommendation to you is to try out both of them. Find a good group (guildies preferred) and try each spec out. See how it works for you. They both work, it's what makes it fun to you that really matters.
Have fun and good luck!
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Edited, Nov 24th 2008 9:10am by Galenmoon
on a very very, VERY, basic level
unholy is better for aoe threat, and bone shield helps with bosses that do large damage with big intervals
frost is a jack-of-all-trades tank build... doing great single target or aoe target, comes with a vary of tank-helping talents so you can almost always have 1 cooldown ready for an ****** moment
they both do the job fine
for example
i tanked a UK last night, but i had a unholy DK in the group tank the 2nd boss (romeo and juliet) since my dps was just as good as his, but his bone shield helped a LOT more tanking the big bad melee guy
if you wanna compare it to current classes
think of frost as a bear tank, and unholy as a tankadin
pick the 1 you like better
i chose frost because i like the group buff it brings (20% melee haste), it has a GREAT RP dump, a lot of ignore armor, and a lot of on-demand burst (opening with a 2k crit to every mob in a pull is a LOT of threat lol)
and while i like the pet thing, i rather be a beast on my own.... not dependant on a pet
unholy is better for aoe threat, and bone shield helps with bosses that do large damage with big intervals
frost is a jack-of-all-trades tank build... doing great single target or aoe target, comes with a vary of tank-helping talents so you can almost always have 1 cooldown ready for an ****** moment
they both do the job fine
for example
i tanked a UK last night, but i had a unholy DK in the group tank the 2nd boss (romeo and juliet) since my dps was just as good as his, but his bone shield helped a LOT more tanking the big bad melee guy
if you wanna compare it to current classes
think of frost as a bear tank, and unholy as a tankadin
pick the 1 you like better
i chose frost because i like the group buff it brings (20% melee haste), it has a GREAT RP dump, a lot of ignore armor, and a lot of on-demand burst (opening with a 2k crit to every mob in a pull is a LOT of threat lol)
and while i like the pet thing, i rather be a beast on my own.... not dependant on a pet
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i chose frost because i like the group buff it brings (20% melee haste), it has a GREAT RP dump, a lot of ignore armor, and a lot of on-demand burst (opening with a 2k crit to every mob in a pull is a LOT of threat lol)
why the lol? i don´t understand...
sorry, its monday.. i hate mondays^^
why the lol? i don´t understand...
sorry, its monday.. i hate mondays^^
lol was cuz that shoulda been fairly obvious its a lot of threat
thats all ;)
thats all ;)
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ok, thx^^
yes... i realy hate mondays....i am always confused on mondays^^
yes... i realy hate mondays....i am always confused on mondays^^
I personally think that unholy is better at multi-target tanking, while frost is the better main tank spec.
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