How's this PvP build? I've never played as Retribution before, so constructive criticism is really appreciated!
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebVcZVfMtrh0fMsgzAo
Here's some comments on some talent choices:
-Toughness: mainly for the slowing effects reduction
-Improved Hammer of Justice: more stuns = good, i think..
-Pursuit of Justice: disarm effects reduction, +15% movement speed + Judgement of Justice = weak snare on opponent
-Divine Purpose: to remove stuns with blessing of freedom
-Fanaticism: Art of War procs more often with it
And here's why i didn't take:
-Parry: not enough talent points... i felt that Benediction was a better choice
-Two-Handed Weapon Spec, Crusade, Sanctified Retribution, Swift Retribution: i don't think that a duel/fight will last long enough to benefit from them
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-Two-Handed Weapon Spec, Crusade, Sanctified Retribution, Swift Retribution: i don't think that a duel/fight will last long enough to benefit from them
correct, cuz u will be dead w/o them. by your philosophy, you might as well spec 61 pts in Prot.
For a PvP build, I would recommend taking 3/3 Imp Righteous Fury. -6% to all damage taken would do you better than 6% armor.
I would also suggest only 2 points in Sanctified Seals. That might sound weird, but it is a great help to protecting your buffs. With 3/3, your Seals are not a valid target for dispels and they get skipped, automatically making any other buffs get hit instead. With 2/3 SS and 3/3 Stoicism, they have a 96% chance to not be dispelled, meaning that very often, one charge of a dispel will fail, leaving your other buffs untouched (especially the Righteous Fury.)
Which leads to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebGcZVfMtrbzfMsgzAo
Edit: Linked the wrong build.
Edited, Nov 19th 2008 12:55pm by Ehcks
I would also suggest only 2 points in Sanctified Seals. That might sound weird, but it is a great help to protecting your buffs. With 3/3, your Seals are not a valid target for dispels and they get skipped, automatically making any other buffs get hit instead. With 2/3 SS and 3/3 Stoicism, they have a 96% chance to not be dispelled, meaning that very often, one charge of a dispel will fail, leaving your other buffs untouched (especially the Righteous Fury.)
Which leads to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebGcZVfMtrbzfMsgzAo
Edit: Linked the wrong build.
Edited, Nov 19th 2008 12:55pm by Ehcks
Ehcks wrote:
For a PvP build, I would recommend taking 3/3 Imp Righteous Fury. -6% to all damage taken would do you better than 6% armor.
I would also suggest only 2 points in Sanctified Seals. That might sound weird, but it is a great help to protecting your buffs. With 3/3, your Seals are not a valid target for dispels and they get skipped, automatically making any other buffs get hit instead. With 2/3 SS and 3/3 Stoicism, they have a 96% chance to not be dispelled, meaning that very often, one charge of a dispel will fail, leaving your other buffs untouched (especially the Righteous Fury.)
Which leads to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebGcZVfMtrbzfMsgzAo
I would also suggest only 2 points in Sanctified Seals. That might sound weird, but it is a great help to protecting your buffs. With 3/3, your Seals are not a valid target for dispels and they get skipped, automatically making any other buffs get hit instead. With 2/3 SS and 3/3 Stoicism, they have a 96% chance to not be dispelled, meaning that very often, one charge of a dispel will fail, leaving your other buffs untouched (especially the Righteous Fury.)
Which leads to this: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=sZ0ebGcZVfMtrbzfMsgzAo
I don't get it. Crusade is an across the board +6% to your damage in PVP. 2-H Weapon Spec is slightly less than that.
How do people put points into things like Vindication or Eye for Eye and leave these talents unfilled?
HoyadinFTW wrote:
I don't get it. Crusade is an across the board +6% to your damage in PVP. 2-H Weapon Spec is slightly less than that.
How do people put points into things like Vindication or Eye for Eye and leave these talents unfilled?
How do people put points into things like Vindication or Eye for Eye and leave these talents unfilled?
Vindication is -20% to enemy stats. In PvP, that's worth a lot.
E4E returns crit damage to the person who did it to you. Again, it's a PvP thing. Also, it's not reduced by your own resilience, so it's even more powerful than the tooltip says.
Rate-ups for Ehcks for that wicked cool dispel-resist trick!
ArtemisEnteri wrote:
Rate-ups for Ehcks for that wicked cool dispel-resist trick!
/Agree I totally didn't even think about that until Ehcks post.
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From PvP'rs point of view:
Is Righteous Vengeance truly so mighty talent in PvP that it has to be maxed even if it means no Crusade and 2hand specialization? Putting 1 talent point into it might help against rogues or bandaging opponents due to the short DoT, but is it really worth having to be 5/5?
And what about Fanatisicm, I do get that having more Art of War procs is divine (+the extra damage it provides), but is that talent also better to be maxed out than putting few talents to 2h specialization and/or Crusade?
Not having crusade just seems so strange, but having imp. HoJ does sound like a good idea.
Is Righteous Vengeance truly so mighty talent in PvP that it has to be maxed even if it means no Crusade and 2hand specialization? Putting 1 talent point into it might help against rogues or bandaging opponents due to the short DoT, but is it really worth having to be 5/5?
And what about Fanatisicm, I do get that having more Art of War procs is divine (+the extra damage it provides), but is that talent also better to be maxed out than putting few talents to 2h specialization and/or Crusade?
Not having crusade just seems so strange, but having imp. HoJ does sound like a good idea.
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