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#77 Jan 06 2009 at 11:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Not bad at all, after tonights tailoring training I should be wearing my moonshroud too, but I'll probably have to settle for the Aurora Slippers just because I don't have the honor handy for those PvP ones. Got those shoulders as a gift from a random rogue I did a couple of HoL runs with the other night. That mace is nice too, might have to grind out the rest of that Kalu'ak rep, not too far off.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Sadiablo
#78 Jan 07 2009 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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I use Glyph of Renew and Glyph of PW:Shield (for the 20% heal return). I usually use Shield as a last resort (bias from my Pally tanking days) and love that as my over critting Rogue who's pulled agro is not only ticking away with a Renew on them, but gaining life as their target is trying to hit them.


I think the glyph works in that it gives the target the health equal to 20% of the maximum amount absorbed when the spell is cast, not when the target gets the damage.

This is actually much better.
#79 Jan 07 2009 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Dread Lord SunSoarer wrote:
Not bad at all, after tonights tailoring training I should be wearing my moonshroud too, but I'll probably have to settle for the Aurora Slippers just because I don't have the honor handy for those PvP ones. Got those shoulders as a gift from a random rogue I did a couple of HoL runs with the other night. That mace is nice too, might have to grind out the rest of that Kalu'ak rep, not too far off.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Frostmourne&n=Sadiablo


Gavel of Brewing Storm Is also another good option- Getting Revered with Wyrmrest Accord isn't all that difficult, less +int, but more spell power and crit as well.

My mana pool is low compared to everyone I've seen. Armory. But I've never had a problem in any heroic except Heroic Old Kingdom on the last fight, but that was only because two of our three dps died during the first instanity phase...

Oh as a side note to all you priests on that fight, if you mind control and then remove the buff, they die. You can do that for 3 of the 4 clones, then you have to kill the 4th one, but it only has 12k HP.

Edited, Jan 7th 2009 4:05pm by SynnTastic
#80 Jan 07 2009 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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My mana pool is low compared to everyone I've seen.


But you're a holy priest. Besides stacking spirit rather than intellect, you don't have Mental Strenght in you build, which alone is worth 15% more intellect.

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Oh as a side note to all you priests on that fight, if you mind control and then remove the buff, they die.


Now that's rather interesting information. So far the agreement has been to just stay alive and have everybody else fight my clones once they're done with theirs.
#81 Jan 07 2009 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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On the topic of MC, what is the trick to buffing an enemy player when they are mc'd or is it not possible anymore? I just remember having it done to me by hordies in the past and tried to do it for a Troll who helped me out the other day but when I mc'd him I couldn't use my buffs...
#82 Jan 08 2009 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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You can only use instant casts when you buff a MC'ed target. Fortitude, Spirit, Shadow Res, Levitate (from 3.0.8), Renew... etc
Select your "pet" and buff it. I've done it countless times on lower level allies.

As for old kingdom... Doesn't MC break when you get damaged by the other clones? do you have time to cancel the buff? If it gets canceled from getting damaged, it still makes the clone die? Anyway.. i managed to kill them all alone, even before the other finished theirs. The second time in that fight i almost died due to lack of mana.
#83 Jan 08 2009 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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I think the glyph works in that it gives the target the health equal to 20% of the maximum amount absorbed when the spell is cast, not when the target gets the damage.


This is exactly how it works. It's a heal at the time of the spell cast. Makes it useful as a Shadow priest to heal myself some to give VE a chance to get going as well as a boost to the target if you're shielding someone in an "oh carp" situation.
#84 Jan 08 2009 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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You can only use instant casts when you buff a MC'ed target. Fortitude, Spirit, Shadow Res, Levitate (from 3.0.8), Renew... etc
Select your "pet" and buff it. I've done it countless times on lower level allies.

As for old kingdom... Doesn't MC break when you get damaged by the other clones? do you have time to cancel the buff? If it gets canceled from getting damaged, it still makes the clone die? Anyway.. i managed to kill them all alone, even before the other finished theirs. The second time in that fight i almost died due to lack of mana.


They die regardless of how MC is broken, be it from you manually breaking the buff or from you taking damage and automatically breaking. The disappear in a puff of black smoke.

I was contemplating last night about it being an exploit or not.

For it not to be an exploit I came up with this rationale. The boss is basically doing a MC of his own, you use your MC on the clones to counteract or void out the bosses. Thought that would be a cool little mechanic added to the game.

However, the opposite side of that would be, if that were the case, why then would it not work on the final clone?

The thing that tipped the scale for me was that using MC made the fight ridiculously easy. I had a group where two dps died in the first insanity phase, the boss was at ~65%, with just heals(me), tank, and one dps, we killed the boss(this was in heroic mode) with no real threat of death.

So I am going to say that this is an exploit in game mechanics, and that more than likely it will be fixed in coming patches. I don't think anyone will get in trouble for doing it, but I definitely would learn to beat the fight without using this, so you aren't handicapped when they do fix it.
#86 Jan 11 2009 at 11:02 PM Rating: Decent
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So yeah, big weekend, got my Kalu'ak mace then jumped in a few Heroics, first run was H UK and I had Je'Tze's Bell drop off trash. Ground out the cash for my flyer and made my flying carpet and did my last normal instance (oc) and got the pattern for my Wispcloak.
In the meantime with all the instance runs got revered with Wyrmrest and got the mace and bracers from them as well as the arcanum for my helm. So now sitting over 1500 SP unbuffed, nearly 1800 self buffed.

Have not got my moonshroud gear made yet, tomorrows cooldown will give me enough cloth to make the gloves, I might end up breaking and buying a bunch or the robe is going to be miles off.

I'm trying to decide at this point whether to keep grinding the Wyrmrest rep for the epic boots or start on the Ebon Blade rep for the gloves and belt.

I guess the Wyrmrest as I will have my moonshroud gloves soon. Hmm.

In the meantime Heroics, I've done Nexus and UK with no issues. Where should I go from there. What are your thoughts on difficulty levels and the drops to farm?
#87 Jan 12 2009 at 8:57 AM Rating: Good
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What I've found is that pretty much every heroic has an item a disc priest needs. Oculus is probably the least useful heroic since it only drops a semi-decent (though epic) staff with haste, iirc.

As far as difficulty goes, what's your armory/stats? I've found that apperantly Healing HoL heroic is very possible with as low as 1300 spellpower, 800 intellect and 16K mana (self-buffed with inner fire).
#88 Jan 12 2009 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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In the meantime Heroics, I've done Nexus and UK with no issues. Where should I go from there. What are your thoughts on difficulty levels and the drops to farm?


Nexus for the mace (dropped for me 1st try)

Azjol-Nerub for wand and belt - though this can be a really tough one unless you have a really good group.

HoL for pants. Loken is a matter of coordination, so it will be yet again a matter of having a decent group. Alternatively you could do Violet Hold, which really isn't too bad, and the pants from there will get you to Loken for sure. You'll also have a chance for the bracers.

I think those are the essentials to aim for. You'll pick up other pieces here and there as you go, rings and whatnot, and soon have enough badges to buy off-hand, trinkets, and such.
#89 Jan 12 2009 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Did Nexus again last night and had the mace drop, the group then continued on to UK, VH and Gun'Drak. After all that I went and spent some badges on Lattice Choker of Light. Feeling very happy.

Edit: Moz, my armory is linked a few posts up.

Edited, Jan 13th 2009 2:07am by SunSoarer
#90 Jan 13 2009 at 7:14 AM Rating: Good
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Ah fair enough, my bad.

A new robe wouldn't be a bad idea. There's two options heroic-wise, an easy and a hard one. Either you go for Loken heroic, or you simply kill Gal'darah in Gundrak for the Arcane Flame Altar-Garb. That elemental/golem boss in the place also happens to drop the Living Mojo Belt which seems a little improvement from what you've got.

Also, you might want to replace some spirit with crit... I'm aiming to stay at 20% unbuffed myself.
#91 Jan 13 2009 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
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A new robe wouldn't be a bad idea.


Yeah, being a tailor I'll have my Moonshroud Robe as soon as I've got the moonshroud. Smiley: smile
#92 Jan 13 2009 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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Disc priests are very viable but the playstyle is totally different. You use pws a great deal and rely on penance and flash heal a lot more. As a tank healing spec goes its VERY nice but due to buff stacking issues its not currently worth taking more than one per raid (or tank depending on the encounter)
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