I hope is not true but after few days of reading wow-europe rogue forum I found in few topics information that other classes get rogue-single target damage:O(And It is Blizz intention to do so).
Second bad info was about hunters - they outperform us with the same gear(damage)-not including that FoN is big S@#$ compared to their AoE skill.
Sry for my English and spreading panic,I just want to ask alot more expierience people then myself.
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Blizzard is intentionally trying to normalize raid DPS output across the classes. The idea being that a rogue, a retadin and a enhance shammy should be able to do about the same DPS in a raid situation. They've doing this so that raid leaders can bring the best players and not be forced to bring just certain classes (at least, not as much).
Panic schmanic. If you're good at what you're brought to the raid to do, then it's not a big deal. If you're terribad and were dragged through raid content because of your class.... well, you're outta luck buck-o! ;)
Panic schmanic. If you're good at what you're brought to the raid to do, then it's not a big deal. If you're terribad and were dragged through raid content because of your class.... well, you're outta luck buck-o! ;)
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I'm not complain about my performance(neither my guildmates)but I think other classes have more utility skills(and some decent AoE skills aswell)so giving them the same amount of single dmg is not fair.
Apart form that-being 1 on dps done on bosses was something what I quite enjoy but now if more classes will do what rogue do... heh-its the end of being the best in something(single dps on bosses).
Apart form that-being 1 on dps done on bosses was something what I quite enjoy but now if more classes will do what rogue do... heh-its the end of being the best in something(single dps on bosses).
Quit your ******* whining. Keep that **** on the oboards.
Seriously. The only people who should worry about the equalization of potential DPS between classes are people who suck. /shrug
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Posted: Nov 18 2008 at 1:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I"m less worry but more sad.
Luckybone wrote:
I"m less worry but more sad.
PS.I noticed that Overlord Theophany usually has the same kind of answers(polite:)-if You dont like my topic,dont read it or answer-but probably it is the next occasion for showing how marvellous you are.
PS.I noticed that Overlord Theophany usually has the same kind of answers(polite:)-if You dont like my topic,dont read it or answer-but probably it is the next occasion for showing how marvellous you are.
Appreciate it.
Play to your strengths I guess. I haven't got it yet, but I'm looking forward to Tricks of the Trade. I think this might change how I spec, from straight max DPS to burst DPS of some kind. I'll make tanks look good. :P Maybe I'm hoping its more useful than it really is though.
I think they should change shadowstep to not reduce threat when your TotT is active though.
I think they should change shadowstep to not reduce threat when your TotT is active though.
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OK.one good skill for us durning the raid-but other classes have more utility then us but their dps will be the same-we should get something in exchange(retadin still can buff and do some heal for example).
I f You are RL and you need to choose melee dps between retadin and rogue(the same dps)-who is more beneficial for a raid-You or Retadin?
I quess retadin but maybe I'm wrong.
I f You are RL and you need to choose melee dps between retadin and rogue(the same dps)-who is more beneficial for a raid-You or Retadin?
I quess retadin but maybe I'm wrong.
Retidins and Mutilate Rogues bring the same raid-wide buff, so it's a fair comparison.
You bring the best player. Period.
You bring the best player. Period.
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That's the best answer I could get:)
Thank you for answers.
Thank you for answers.
However, this is likely bad news if you PUG alot (and from the sound of it, PUGing raids in WotLK will be just as viable as it was at the end of BC) and don't have a bit of a reputation for yourself.
Ah, not in a 100 years will rogues vanish from the raiding scene. And we're already one of the most overpowered classes for PvP (if not the most overpowered one).
Nothing to worry about; roll a shaman and complain about their problems ;)
Nothing to worry about; roll a shaman and complain about their problems ;)
I'm in a raid group, in the main guild of the raid group, and friends with the Raid Leaders brother as well as one of the top DPS.
Guess which of those reasons I get to go to raids for...
I don't get only if: I'm late, I bow out for someone else, or I don't sign up.
Find people you can work with and hey! You'll be set.
Guess which of those reasons I get to go to raids for...
I don't get only if: I'm late, I bow out for someone else, or I don't sign up.
Find people you can work with and hey! You'll be set.
incidentally, combat rogues and arms wars bring the same raid debuff as well, so theres more raid similarity.
rogues will be fine. the best will be brought and the rest will rot.
rogues will be fine. the best will be brought and the rest will rot.
Quor wrote:
incidentally, combat rogues and arms wars bring the same raid debuff as well, so theres more raid similarity.
rogues will be fine. the best will be brought and the rest will rot.
rogues will be fine. the best will be brought and the rest will rot.
(or go to another place where they fit in or play a healer and find themselves very useful, or as one person in my guild found, he's not a great dps but he can tank really great)
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I'm not sure, but I think what he's trying to say is that rogues get one role, DPS, but other classes can choose what they want to be. If we're only good at one thing, shouldn't we be the best at it? We can't switch specs and gear to become a healer or tank.
I don't necessarily agree with this line of thinking, but I think that might be what he's trying to say.
I don't necessarily agree with this line of thinking, but I think that might be what he's trying to say.
I do wonder a bit though. He's got one slight point, even though it may be unintended. With Dualspeccs, you'll find that Hybrids like Paladins and so on will be far more powerful in a raidgroup than core classes like Rogues. We got the choice between DPS or DPS, or possibly DPS and PvP DPS. A Paladin though, got the choice between DPS or Healing/Tanking, or Tanking and Healing, whatever. Similar for Druids and Shamans, if they can keep their gearsets up to date.
Why should a Raidgroup bother with skilled core classes for one role, when they can have skilled hybrid classes for several roles?
Now, I'm not saying these changes are necessarily bad. It somewhat scares me that Pure DPS classes can be beaten on damage by a Hybrid that's running that particular raid as DPS even though he's primarily a tank or whatever. It makes me wonder if the core classes are really needed. Slimming down a raidgroup by upping the number of Hybrids is definitely a valid choice for a raidleader that wants to reduce the amount of idle players in a raidgroup.
I'm not too worried. I'm still one of the best my Guild can get their hands on, and I have no fear of being dislodged in favor of anyone else. I'm just pointing out possible future pit-traps the unwary can stumble upon. I am however interested in hearing what others think of the Hybrids vs Cores. (No Theo, you don't get to say anything, you are playing an Emodin)
Why should a Raidgroup bother with skilled core classes for one role, when they can have skilled hybrid classes for several roles?
Now, I'm not saying these changes are necessarily bad. It somewhat scares me that Pure DPS classes can be beaten on damage by a Hybrid that's running that particular raid as DPS even though he's primarily a tank or whatever. It makes me wonder if the core classes are really needed. Slimming down a raidgroup by upping the number of Hybrids is definitely a valid choice for a raidleader that wants to reduce the amount of idle players in a raidgroup.
I'm not too worried. I'm still one of the best my Guild can get their hands on, and I have no fear of being dislodged in favor of anyone else. I'm just pointing out possible future pit-traps the unwary can stumble upon. I am however interested in hearing what others think of the Hybrids vs Cores. (No Theo, you don't get to say anything, you are playing an Emodin)
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