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Re-spec'ing from Shadow to Disc/Holy, halp plzFollow

#1 Nov 17 2008 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
I've been giving it some thought, and since I haven't healed *any* instances (other than 2 ZF runs and 1 SFK run way back when I was like, 20) I think from 67 on I want to re-spec to Disc/Holy for the long haul.

Have some questions/issues though.

1- Should I just wait until I'm 70 to do it, since then I'll be moving onto Northrend and have far more chances to heal instances for practice for big stuff?
2- I do like to PvP a bit, so however I re-spec would have to be viable in BG's as well (don't care for arena... though I guess I'll have to learn to like it eventually :<).
3- any suggestions for a decent talent build for both instance'ing/solo'ing are appreciated, since I'm pretty clueless.

Basically since my Shadow Priest isn't wanted for much, and I constantly get asked to heal and I just don't feel comfortable/have experience with it, I want to change things and start focusing on what I will inevitably have to do with my priest in the end-run. But I'm a bit overwhelmed and confused by everything. :<

(Add-on suggestions are appreciated as well- have Omen, Grid, and Decursive all installed... just haven't done anything yet to feel out how they work. :<)

Thanks in advance~
#2 Nov 17 2008 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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You can try healing as Shadow. However, if you feel like you'd be more comfortable doing it as Holy, I suggest something like this. Yes, it looks odd, but bear in mind it's not an endgame build. It's a compromise with plenty of healing power but a few goodies for solo efficiency thrown in. I just posted yesterday that I went into Northrend to level with that exact build, and have had no problems either soloing or healing 5 mans with it. I defy you to die while questing with that build. ;)

As for whether you do it at 67 or 70, I don't think it much matters. Whenever you feel like it. :)


P.S. I forgot to address your PVP issue by saying, "I dunno." I don't PVP much, just a little Halaa here and there, which I always just did as Holy. Circle of Healing FTW. :)


Edited, Nov 17th 2008 4:24pm by teacake
#3 Nov 17 2008 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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To make an oddball build BG-viable is quite easy, really. You generally swap 3-5 points around and you're there. Sticking with Teacakes build and 'adjusting' it for ocassional PvP I've come up with this. Your greater heals will heal a bit less and your shield won't be as good; these are small stat differences you should barely notice if you're not at end-game, though. Regardless, whatever you do, if you go that far up the holy tree and want some PvP viability, Blessed Resilience is a must. If there's stuff you feel you can miss (Holy Concentration for example), picking up Blessed Recovery isn't a bad idea either.
#4 Nov 17 2008 at 6:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've recently stumbled across a pretty good WoW priest site called "Dwarf Priest". In addition to this site and Shadowpriest.com it seems to me to be a good resource and offers pretty good information.

Her Wrath of the Lich King survival guide, complete with talent and gear suggestions (for both healing and dps):

http://dwarfpriest.com/2008/11/11/wotlk-priest-survival-guide/#level

Plus, on her main page she states "Dwarf Priest - I melt kneecaps!"



Well, I thought that part was funny anyway...but I'm weird. :-P
#5 Nov 17 2008 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Man o man every time I look in this forum, I see something that I can relate to. I just moved from shadow/disc to holy/disc at L68. My reasoning being that when/if the dual spec option is implemented (i hope that isn't just one of those rumors floating about), I would like to be able to have some idea of what I'm doing in a different spec. I know I'll have a shadow spec. Even if it is considered the poor cousin of healing 5-mans and raids, I like the ease of moving in and out of heal and dps mode, even joining the two.

I'm pretty sure I goofed my holy spec. Lightwell is ignored in most people's spec (i took it); Holy Reach seems to be passed up (yep, maxed that out, too). I thought Martyrdom was a better choice than Healing Focus (oops, now that i consider it, why wait to be crit hit before enjoying reduced pushbacks?) And most glaringly, I failed to max out Spiritual Guidance!

My confused choices arose when I began to realize that many of the talents rely on crits (either given or taken) for the party to start. I haven't thought overly much about crits, and try not to rely on them to be effective. Now, it seems to me, Inner Focus should be used earlier in a fight to proc out a crit and start the chain up. I have used it when OOM as a last ditch effort to save a wipe (which it has =] )

I thought Lightwell would work well with Hymn of Hope (kind of an 'Out to Lunch' sign while I replenish all). But HoH isn't as great as I thought, and nobody likes it if a healer takes an unscheduled break in a fight. Maybe it has a place in larger groups where multiple classes can cover each other or at the end of a long fight where you could set it out while drinking. But it appears to be more of a convenience than necessity.

I hate taking a "xxx/xxx" build and just plopping it in. But without spending the time during leveling to appreciate the synergies between talents, it is difficult to ignore the suggestions of others.

Thanks for the suggestions. I am and always hope to be a newb. =P
#6 Nov 18 2008 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I really suggest you make a "leveling" build with a mix of holy and disc. Start from this. Leave holy as it is. Also, spirit tap is invaluable for leveling/solo. (for example, i am farming netherwing rep, and i have spirit tap ALWAYS on. That is +100 spell power at least). Then start adding to disc: Mental Strength and Enlightenment. The last 5 points it up to you: Spiritual Healing or Reflective Shield, or just complete some talents in disc. If you want to heal a lot in instances, Spiritual Healing should be better.

At 80, then you should respec (or not :P) according to what you want to play.
#7 Nov 18 2008 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
Wow, thanks so much! I have a clearer idea of where to head with spec'ing than I did before. In a couple days when I pick up my priest again (giving the masses about another week to start to move out of the Northrend starting areas) I'm definitely going to give these a try. I'm a little nervous about doing something completely differently than I have for the last ~25 levels or so, but I'm sure with some practice I'll have a better grip on it. :D Thanks!

If anyone else has tips/suggestions, they are *greatly* appreciated, so don't be afraid to share, please! ^^
#8 Nov 20 2008 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I had a question regarding Spirit Tap and Spiritual Healing. Does the bonus to spirit from SpT also affect your spell power boost from SpH? I would think it would, but it says 'bonus to your spirit' in SpT and seems sort of vague.
#9 Nov 20 2008 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you're messing up some stuff, Trylofer. Spirit Tap increases your spirit; Spiritual Healing permanently increases the amount your heal spells heal for. They have nothing to do with eachother. Perhaps you were talking about Spiritual Guidance? In that case I'd daresay it's indeed affected by Spirit Tap; it is affected by buffs like Divine Spirit, so why not by spirit tab?
#10 Nov 20 2008 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Everything that increases spirit increases your spell power through Spiritual Guidance. That includes spirit tap, various trinkets (bangle, earing...), divine spirit, kings etc.
#11 Nov 21 2008 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Ooops... yes I meant Spiritual Guidance. I was -uh- just trying to keep you on your toes (yeah that's the ticket).

Nice little boost in spell power. I was noticing larger numbers later in fights with multiple mobs. I guess this would be one factor.
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