So do you think it was fair?Follow

I am really enjoying my death knight. It is a very easy class to get the hang of. I also have a 70 shaman.

So I was questing in Zangermarsh when a lvl 58 Death Knight says in general. "Can someone show me how to get into Hellfire Peninsula?" Someone else said haven't you ever been before? He said "No I have a 56 hunter and this guy" ... I said "wow you should have had to have a 70 to make a death knight. " 3 or 4 people agreed with me but quite a few others said I was a mean butt head... I am assuming those people don't have 70s either.

So my question is do you think it was fair for people who have never worked and experienced the outlands to be handed a death knight with a free mount, first aid and everything else?

Some character has to be your first in outland, why not death knight? Who cares if they get auto-leveled first aid and free riding skill? Most people at 58 have those things anyway (not epic riding obviously, but most have the money for it the second they ding 60.)

I'm really torn on this. On the one hand, why not? Having the requirement to be a 70 probably wouldn't eliminate the endless questions in chat. On my server the questions were ridiculous. Where's this, where's that... how do I this and how do I that. As all the DK's know, the beginning quests were pretty easy and usually self explanatory. Hell, if I could figure them out, anyone can. If people refuse to read the quests and use the map at 55, they'd probably be the same at 70, imho.

On the other hand, getting a free epic mount, First Aid at 270 and blue gear right off the bat? I think on some level you should have to have a 70 for that. I have a 55 warlock, all in greens, First aid is at 104 or so. For her I get handed a death knight? If I didn't have my epic'd (not completely, but close)70's, and I got a DK off Wearette's level, I'd feel like I hit the lottery.

I think maybe what they should have done, is allow you to make a DK if you have a 55, with a comparable skill set/armor set to what you have on your existing 55. If you're wearing blues, you get blues...if you're at 150 First Aid, you start at 150 etc. I know, I know, too many technical considerations probably, but that may have been more fair.

As for the OP's getting chastised for being "mean." I don't think so. Whoever that was obviously didn't take their DK through the portal, and probably bought a port to Shatt. All my toons have had their hearth in Shatt since they had the gold to buy a port, but they all ran through the portal at 58. Whether that new DK had a 70 or not, he would have been asking the same question when his hunter was ready for OL.

Being a FFXI Vet I can agree that some jobs you had to unlock by doing certain quest or quests. With all the questions about dk....how do you do this...or how do you do that. Maybe....They should have started the DK off at level 1 like any other normal toon. Then by 55 most of those people who are stuck on there's wouldn't be. I've noticed that all Fp's are unlocked on dk. Took me about 4 days to finally nail down my DK thanks to you all. Starting at 55 could have been cool but I have to agree being level 70 to have a dk.

Thats pre OL's and most that have 55+ toons havn't been there. I myself have a 71 hunter. Done all quests in Ol's. Now am working on 80. Not even going to touch DK again tell I ding 80. And to the above post. Give who a break the guy who asked were outlands was. I will have to admit at certain points and places it gets annoying when you have a 50+ player run up to you and ask a question that they should deff know the answer to. I can understand if the guy was one. But he stopped his hunter at 56 to play DK. Telling him were OL's is one thing but once he gets there you'd eventually have to put him on ignore cause he'd be filling your screen with so much......were do I do this quest at and such. Yeah it gets annoying.

I maintain my stance that you must take an IQ test to access the internet.

Yeah, he paid for it didn't he?

You, sir, are an ***. But, not just your normal everyday ***. You are an elite ***. "Butt head" doesn't begin to cover your reaction, since it's not only your head that's an ***. Would you have preferred that he had leveled his hunter and asked you the same question with his hunter?

This quote won the thread, also unlocked the "50% of the internet beaten" achievement.

He probably got ported to Shatt.

Is it fair to make assumptions based on absolutely no facts or evidence?

Nobody blasted you for asking for an opinion. People are blasting you for being dumb.

Blizzard apparently wanted WoW to be fun for ALL of its subscribers, not just for the level 70 elitist players.
Notice that Recruit-a-friend stopped at level 60?
Most players who have ben playing for more than a few months have at least one level 55-60 toon, so it seemed fair to Blizzard to make that a prerequisite for creating a DK. It was their decision (their game, their decisions).

Just this week I came across a level 70 player who asked "how do you make an item not be soulbound anymore?"

So I guess that being level 70 doesn't immunize anyone from being an idiot, does it.

What about all those players who rush headlong to hit level 70? Basically ignoring the story, concentrating on ONLY levelling? Are they playing the game the way it should? Sure, they have a level 70 toon in 15 hours or whatever. Do you want them any more in your party than the person who may have levelled 10 toons to 55 or 60, nice and slow, enjoying each moment, savoring each quest, and actually learning about each class they have played? Or is the fact that they don't have a level 70 toon enough to make them unimportant in your eyes?

I can tell you that for myself, I have no level 70 toons. My highest is level 64. I have at least 10 level 60 toons. They all have their purpose for my pleasure in the game. And if WotLK had had absolutely nothing for me (like the DK) then Blizzard would not have had the money from my three account upgrades. I'm glad they tossed me a bone by making DK a level 55 minimum requirement.