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#1 Nov 13 2008 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
Been reading like crazy. Hard for me to decide what I wanna do. Any of you figured out what is the best leveling tree. This question implies to those that played the beta. Got 49 points to use and don't wanna have to spend loads to respec. I'm wanting to solo easily and do awsome damage.

Looking for a good leveling spec. DOn't matter what tree. Frost looks pretty cool. Don't know about blood and unholy. Thanks to those whome reply. Here's my take on 60 builds just so you don't think I'm lazy. This is what I had in mind:
Blood PVE Build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMqccIsb0pzN

Frost PVE Build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZGMxzIxdMGoVost

Unholy PVE Build: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jZZfMhIzckxMaMcRdt

Have no clue if I did those right. Just wanted to show you my take on all 3. I just want the best. Thanks for those whome reply.
#2 Nov 14 2008 at 5:04 AM Rating: Good
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This is what I'm rocking right now at 59 Alessan

I am doing about 360-375 dps on single targets around hellfire (ghoul up all the time)

I did Hellfire Ramps with 2 other DK's and a 70 resto druid. The other two DK's were level 59, I was 58. They were both also frost.

I was at 410dps average for the whole run, it started slow and increased as I got used to using all my abilities in instances. I would say for the last 5-6 pulls I was averaging almost 500dps lol.

Anyway I tanked some of the pulls just for fun, but one of the 59's tanked most of it.

All I know is that after I put up my diseases and hit pestilence, my desecration was already up and running and I was doing some pretty sweet AOE damage on every pull. Even 4 manning it, with a 59's and 58's ( the resto drood said she coulda gone for coffee on half the pulls) we were easily tearing through everything.

I am really enjoying this guy. It's a nice changeup and I was getting burnt out on raiding for so long. I can't tell you this is the best leveling build, but I was killing 61-62's in hellfire without dropping below 94% health and I took on 3 60's and a 61 at one point and just popped my frost presence, got my diseases running, popped gargoyle and taaadaaa toooo easy.

I did have a question for anyone who might know. I know that even if we spec into it, it doesn't show as + damage, but how effective is Impurity? Is it worth the points? I was thinking of moving some over there if it will increase my dps substantially.

:P
#3 Nov 14 2008 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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Souliken wrote:
Got 49 points to use and don't wanna have to spend loads to respec.


I'm still playing with specs but just alittle info. first respec is 1g and second is only 5g
#4REDACTED, Posted: Nov 14 2008 at 8:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Frost=tanking
#5 Nov 14 2008 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Blood or Unholy are both useful for pvp, although unholy is much more useful for pve and leveling. Frost is essentially tanking, but the point with a death knight is that each of their specs is meant to do different things based on playstyle. You could be blood pve, frost pvp, or even an unholy aoe tank, it just depends.

#6 Nov 14 2008 at 10:29 AM Rating: Good
Zkugod wrote:
Frost=tanking
Blood=pvp
Unholy=pve


This is so wrong I can't even begin to talk about how wrong this is... Heavy unholy (to SS, then stop) sub blood is a MUCH better pvp spec than full blood ever could be. Plus, blood has one of the, if not the highest sustained PvE dps specs there is. Frost has great burst (good for pvp) and also has pretty good sustained dps. Unholy does great in PvE, but also makes a really good tank. I've personally tanked as unholy in beta, it works and it's great.
#7 Nov 14 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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In beta I leveled both Unholy and Blood (both to 78) and they honestly were about the same time investment. Unholy had more multi-mob killing sprees, Blood had less down-time.

My live DK is frost (just parked her at 60 for the time being) if just to test the frozen waters, so to speak ;)

Frost does seem pretty bursty (4k Icy Touch crits, a lot) and defensive, but I'm not noticing any serious slow-down on XP/hour. Compared to leveling a tankadin pre-2.2 in the same zone, the DK is a breeze.
#8 Nov 14 2008 at 6:03 PM Rating: Default
Right now I'm not doing any instances tell I get the hang of a rotation of some sort. Like when to you blood boil. I'll start with Icy touch.....then blood strike.....heart strike....then Blood boil? Action bar is so messed up. I like mind freeze though. Nice to keep those stragglers from running.

I fought a level 70 hunter yesterday in goldy. >.> suprisingly I won with 12% health left. I have no clue how I did it. I just put up all my dps diseases and plagues and kept icy touch up. Kept pulling the hunter to me. After the fight he said that was the sickest duel he's ever had. 12 levels! No freaking way. Took me a moment to realise that. But as far as tree's go. I'm sticking with blood. I like the self healing. Plus took cooking, Herb and alch.

Throw on some good potions and have our inscriptionist make me some scrolls. I just need to find a good build. I'll link my armory if it works. Some of the abilities I don't understand like the one that can turn 2 blood runes into death runes. ><

Armory isn't working. And can't log in cause que is 740 ><
#9 Nov 15 2008 at 12:23 AM Rating: Decent
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I liked Blood and Unholy a lot, and haven't tried Ice yet and probably will, heh. When I finally left the newbie area and got all my talent points, I put in sufficient Points to get a 22/0/26 spec, which gave me all the fun of Unholy (Faster Mount, Perma-Pet, Summon Gargoyle) and also the healing spells from Blood (Improved Rune Tap, Vendetta, Mark of Blood). It's working great, even at lvl 60 and although I will likely change again as the DK rises through the levels, I'm very happy with my build at this time.


Edited, Nov 15th 2008 8:58am by Krago
#10 Nov 15 2008 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
I have been enjoying blood alot the ability to finish nearly every fight i start with full hp is awesomeSmiley: grin. In instances with 4 blood Dk's and a frost its pretty easy if all the blood dk's keep mark of blood up so the tank gets healed every time it gets hit.

#11 Nov 15 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
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i dont know which is best at what, but having a lot of fun with the DK, placed all my points in frost, no particular reason at the time, but, have reached level 58 so far, and recently solo'd a level 60 elite, (silver not gold!) so easily that i had to wonder, at this rate, what are the chances of our DK's getting nerfed, eventually things are going to settle down, but i can already imagine some of the complaints that are going to be coming from the battlegrounds.... :/
#12 Nov 15 2008 at 7:44 AM Rating: Good
Clouddancer wrote:
recently solo'd a level 60 elite, (silver not gold!)


Then it was a rare not an elite.
#13 Nov 15 2008 at 8:59 AM Rating: Good
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The next person who says something like
"frost is tanking blood is pvp unholy is pve" or whatever,
is going to be turkey slapped in the face.

learn to read, think, play, and not say retarded stuff.
#14 Nov 15 2008 at 9:10 AM Rating: Default
Few questions. Death Rune Mastery. What exactly does it do and is it worth the 3 points. Also blood aura. Anyone take it. And is blood worms good for leveling?

Edit: also....the abilities that say raid members get a certain %. Are those are end game abilities?

Edited, Nov 15th 2008 11:24am by Souliken
#15 Nov 15 2008 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
Souliken wrote:
Few questions. Death Rune Mastery. What exactly does it do and is it worth the 3 points. Also blood aura. Anyone take it. And is blood worms good for leveling?


Death runes allow you to use it as any rune. For example, you turn a blood rune into a death rune. Now you can use that blood rune as either a frost or an unholy rune. Yes, every tree has something like this, and yes I use it in nearly every build I do.

Blood aura, sometimes I have it sometimes I don't. It's cool but you don't NEED it.

Blood worms: great for leveling, meh for 80 dps.
#16 Nov 15 2008 at 12:10 PM Rating: Good
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In beta I leveled both Unholy and Blood (both to 78) and they honestly were about the same time investment. Unholy had more multi-mob killing sprees, Blood had less down-time.

My live DK is frost (just parked her at 60 for the time being) if just to test the frozen waters, so to speak ;)

Frost does seem pretty bursty (4k Icy Touch crits, a lot) and defensive, but I'm not noticing any serious slow-down on XP/hour. Compared to leveling a tankadin pre-2.2 in the same zone, the DK is a breeze.

4k icy touch? at lvl 60? under normal circumstances?
#17 Nov 15 2008 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I havent tried frost yet, but if Im blood specced my crits tend to be around 2.5k average.

And they are a bit over that if unholy specced.

From those specs I tried I see blood as the best leveling spec, as I dont see myself so "rune-straved" as with unholy, and Ive been able to solo almost every group quest I got until lvl 64.

Unholy is a bit more bursty, and excels at AoE, but if you do a bad pull and the mobs dont die after the first burst of damage you will find yourself with runes on CD and a bit runepower starved.(at least I did:P)
#18 Nov 15 2008 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
NeroSeekerOfSouls wrote:
4k icy touch? at lvl 60? under normal circumstances?


That was probably when tundra stalker affected icy touch. Frost got nerfed and had IT taken out of TS.
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