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wait till they get dismantle. stupidest skill in game, made even worse with prep and a glyph of prep.

unless your prot in uber tank gear. then its painful for the rogue.

before dismantle, yes. after dismantle, much less so. cheap shot to kidney shot to dismantle means youre effectively CC'ed for 20s straight. thats a lot of time to spend sitting there doing nothing.

prep and glyph of prep mean a rogue can dismantle again immediately, adding another 5s of disarm (and no shield as well in case you decide to try and turtle up). in that sense, being fury vs a rogue is better, or at least speccing weapon mastery (which means no bladestorm :( )

against rogues, know when you can pop your trinket and immediately fear them. then run like hell. lol.

rogues are easier to take if you get them first, so on my war i always always jump horde rogues when i see them.

its not so bad in a bg environment if youre supported in some way (even a HoT can be enough to last through the initial blast and take the rogue down). but in any kind of situation where its you vs the rogue with no little-to-no help and the rogue has most or all of his CD's, (2's arena as rogue/mage comes to mind) then dismantle is a royal pain in the ***. its much too close to an "i-win" button vs warriors. and other rogues. and hunters. and ret pallies. and enh shammies.

exactly. they just "hunterized" (as in, "buffed unnecessarily in order to make it easier for the people who suck") the rogue class by giving them dismantle (at level 20 no less). now the crappy rogues have another tool to use to help make life easier for them, and the good rogues are shaking their heads while laughing all the way to the bank.

the fact that dismantle is disarm but better in every single way is just twisting the knife.

keep in mind im speaking from a max-level perspective here. if you know what youre about and keep your gear updated as you level, warriors, especially arms, can do pretty well vs rogues. once pvp gear and all the talents of the level cap come into play a rogue becomes much much harder to kill, and in many cases can kill you if you dont get lucky (i.e. non-crit overpowers, resisted intercept stuns etc.).

its a tough call to say what class "counters" rogues now. assuming equal gear and roughly equal skill, a prot warrior has the best chance in a solo environment, while its a toss-up between the three specs in a group environment. some hunter specs can do well vs rogues, but its very much a battle of attrition where the hunter is trying to wear down the rogues CD's before the rogue can do the same thing to the hunter. prot pallies also can do very well, but they lack the ability to truly keep the rogue in combat, unlike warriors and hunters. the best that can be said now is that rogues are "soft-countered" more than anything. you wont find any lopsided fights like pally vs druid, or mage vs warrior; the rogue almost always has at least a fair chance of winning.

they do. its called damage shield (aptly named, i know). it basically tosses back 10/20% of the warriors block value back to the attacker whenever the warrior gets hit or gets a block. it requires some pretty high end tank gear to make it work, and the current ideal at 70 would be 4/8 T6 with 4/5 S4 sprinkling in off-set pieces as needed, but if you have that gear, prot is pretty brutal to go against, even as a caster.

If you ask me, ret pallies have only become easier to kill since the patch. The main problem pre-patch used to be that I couldn't deal enough damage to kill them before the got me, thanks to their plate. Right now I actually notice a real difference between retardins, protadins and healadins in terms of survivability. Pre-patch, retardins had (aside from the heals) the same longevity as at least healadins.

Yes, they deal more damage, but it's fairly easy to avoid that damage if you know what you're doing. And you can kill them while doing so. Pre-patch, I could only manage the first.

prot pally vs druid? really? the pally didnt judge justice? mount up, hit sader aura, run up to the druid, judge, then beat druid down. end of story. the druid will run out of mana before the pally will, thanks to seal of wisdom and conservative mana usage. theres really nothing a druid can do there except try to outlast things and hope the pally is dumb and doesnt, for whatever reason, refresh judgement (assuming his autos dont do it anyway).

even if root is factored in, itll eventually be on DR. cyclone too. and once theyre both on DR, the druid is SoL (and likely LoM too, thanks to the costs of casting those spells).

you also have to keep in mind that he can cleanse root. that right there with justice will keep him on you full time.

trust me, a good paladin is a terror to get away from as a druid solo. it requires two things: timely use of your trinket (to break justice) and proper usage of either bash or cyclone when his trinket is down. in a group environment its a bit easier, since youll ideally have support, but in smaller group stuff its murder.