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What are the best enchants for a Prot Pally now?Follow

#1 Nov 09 2008 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
I was wondering with the patch what are the best enchants for Pro Pallys now. I use to have threat on my gloves but that isn't a problem anymore. I'm not sure if I should go for all mostly stamina or mix in other thngs. any info will be appriciated.
#2 Nov 09 2008 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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The biggest change is Potency to your weapon. 20 Str is 40 AP. 40 AP is equal to 40 spell power for nearly every threat ability. And this isn't considering Divine Strength or BoK.

You might also consider Strength to gloves instead of threat, but I don't see the point of doing math on this for a while.

And with the change of the 20 Defense talent to 5% dodge, you might want to enchant your chest, cloak, or bracers with defense to get uncrittable. You'll probably have to at 80, anyway.
#3 Nov 11 2008 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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Potency to weapon, Defensive enchants if you NEED them to get uncrittable, cheap Heavy Knothide armor kits for extra stamina for now since we will all be levelling again in a few days.
#4 Nov 11 2008 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
So str is spell power now? Is it doubled also. Str X 2 = SP?
#5 Nov 11 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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So str is spell power now? Is it doubled also. Str X 2 = SP?


Strength is Attack Power. For paladins, 1 Str is 2 AP. There's an enchant for 20 Str to weapon, and one for 40 SP to weapon.

The thing is, spells like Consecration, Avenger's Shield, and Holy Shield get more damage from AP and SP by the same amount per point. Seals and judgements also get more damage from SP and AP, but the amounts differ.

On average, 40 AP and 40 SP will give the same amount of extra threat, but you get talents that increase your strength, so the Str enchant is better. Also, 20 Str is 10 block value now, so it's also more mitigation.

12 Str to bracers and 15 Str to gloves are far better than the spell power enchants to those slots, but you'll probably want defense on the bracers, and either stam or +threat on the gloves.
#6 Nov 11 2008 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
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Ehcks wrote:
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So str is spell power now? Is it doubled also. Str X 2 = SP?


Strength is Attack Power. For paladins, 1 Str is 2 AP. There's an enchant for 20 Str to weapon, and one for 40 SP to weapon.

The thing is, spells like Consecration, Avenger's Shield, and Holy Shield get more damage from AP and SP by the same amount per point. Seals and judgements also get more damage from SP and AP, but the amounts differ.

On average, 40 AP and 40 SP will give the same amount of extra threat, but you get talents that increase your strength, so the Str enchant is better. Also, 20 Str is 10 block value now, so it's also more mitigation.

12 Str to bracers and 15 Str to gloves are far better than the spell power enchants to those slots, but you'll probably want defense on the bracers, and either stam or +threat on the gloves.


I am not a theorycrafter in the least, but I would like to see the math for level 80 to see if +15 str to bracer was actually better than 2% threat. I THINK threat would still be better, but +15 str is an interesting option.
#7 Nov 12 2008 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I am not a theorycrafter in the least, but I would like to see the math for level 80 to see if +15 str to bracer was actually better than 2% threat. I THINK threat would still be better, but +15 str is an interesting option.


I think you mean gloves?

Don't forget there will be a new enchant available offering 44 AP....

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Missed new enchant which gives 2% threat and 10 parry rating which might be worth it.

Edited, Nov 12th 2008 12:52pm by IronhideBismarck

Edited, Nov 12th 2008 5:09pm by IronhideBismarck
#8 Nov 13 2008 at 6:08 AM Rating: Default
how does str = spell dmg for a prot pally?

isnt it sta = spell dmg for a prot pally and str/AP for retardin?
#9 Nov 13 2008 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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how does str = spell dmg for a prot pally?

isnt it sta = spell dmg for a prot pally and str/AP for retardin?


What he is saying is that 40 AP generates about as much threat as 40 spell damage. Not that 40AP = 40SP

I just have one question though.....is this right though considering the compounded nature of spell power by having potentially multiple spells affecting a mob due to spell power. Between consecrate, retribution aura and holy shield all being on at one time, one would think the 40SP would have a higher threat value than Str, especially with multiple mobs involved.
#10 Nov 13 2008 at 7:50 AM Rating: Default
see i still think spell dmg is better for pally tanks that str/AP, dut to exactly those factors--- multi target tanking will be made a lot easier than spell dmg, and single target will be a mix of spell dmg and AP dut to judgements and the like.

#11 Nov 13 2008 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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Between consecrate, retribution aura and holy shield all being on at one time, one would think the 40SP would have a higher threat value than Str, especially with multiple mobs involved.


All three of those get extra damage from AP. I know Consecration gets the same bonus damage from AP as SP, not sure on the other two.

I have around 530 SP and exactly 1000 AP right now. I create a stupid amount of threat, both AoE and single target. I have to turn off RF when I'm OT and attacking the MT's target just to not pull..
#12 Nov 13 2008 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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All three of those get extra damage from AP. I know Consecration gets the same bonus damage from AP as SP, not sure on the other two.

I have around 530 SP and exactly 1000 AP right now. I create a stupid amount of threat, both AoE and single target. I have to turn off RF when I'm OT and attacking the MT's target just to not pull..

Good to know...thanks
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