who is rightFollow

CC involves everyone not just the player performing the trap, sheep, shackle, sap, etc.

What shot did you use to pull the mob off the pally? If you did not use Distracting then you are fail. Distracting is now a raneged taunt, meaning that mob is coming for you! Also as the |CC it is your job to get it trapped no matter what. The pally hit consecrate to protect the healer.

On a side note, a well geared pally tank using CC is rather funny. CC is not that improtant anymore in higher end playing. Kara no longer requires any cc, same with ZA. Maybe some in SSC and TK but other than that I dont know. We dont even use CC in BT.

In closing, before they gave us a ranged taunt it could be tricky to get a mob to come to you, especially if it was hit by captain america shield and then was in consecrate, made likfe rough. Now though there is just no excuse, unless it can be resisteed?

*Edit* Holy **** I spell like an effin 3rd grader! I fail.

Edited, Nov 7th 2008 7:17pm by rinkkel

With the new threat mechanics, a taunt is needed to pull something off a good tank. Did your shots miss? Get resisted? Now i am interested. I haven't done any testing with Distracting since the change, maybe it is bugged.

Did you pull with distracting or did you try to pull it off the pally with distracting? If you where the first to get threat on the mob then Distractign shot reads like it wouldn't be enough to pull through a consecrate. Maybe if you waited till it was on him and then tried to peel it off. Can you remember how it went down?

Both are wrong. If the pally isn't dying, you don't need traps.

I used to have a problem with a Pally tank. I haven't been with one since the distracting change so not an issue there that I can verify for you at the moment. I had to create a Focus trapping macro that dumped the kitchen sink on the trap target if the pally was using thrown shield to pull aggro to them. I literally had to blow all my damage cd shots to overcome that darned shield!

Now with distracting, I shouldn't have to do that, but I've been unable to test it. I keep the trapping macro still, it still works for a fast threat generation. Nice thing is, since it targets the focus, I don't have to keep it up once the target is headed for me, I can go on to main dps and step past the trapped target. I usually drop the second trap at my 17 count on the main trap. It gives me time to re-do it if for some reason I lag and the trap doesn't drop. We're usually ready for the trapped target by the time 37 seconds elapses anyway! ^_^

I have issues with consecrate blowing the trap because the Pally isn't paying attention to where the trap is even though I warn them and show them going into the fight... our warriors have blown my traps a time or two as well.

Best solution is to never trap unless absolutely necessary or to go as far away from the party as possible out of their line of AOE and attack. Let the pally pull first but you need to get that target to you however you can. If the pally blows it, it is the pally's fault. Maybe not consecrate until the traps are confirmed?