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I haven't seen this at all (at least for Holy). I looked on wowhead, and don't see anything replacing T4 until your mid-late 70s. T5 - very late 70s. T6....Naxx?

The problem I found with most of the gear is that it's not very well balanced. It's usually missing a stat here or there. Like a good amount of +Spell Power, but no +Crit or +MP5. I think I just got spoiled :)

I really hope so. I wasn't impressed with the quest gear currently listed in wowhead.

Also, I believe they already announced that you will be able to keep all your honor points. However, I'm not sure about Arena. I thought that resetted each season anyway.

Blizzard has already officially stated:

Honor will not reset.
Arena points WILL reset the moment you ding 71.

I'm not sure how you justify ignoring gems. Some gemmed T6/6.5 gear is superior to some blues. So why would you replace it?

Also, I know that some T6/6.5 will be replaced prior to Naxx. But I don't think that people will only be running Naxx is 100% blues. I bet you will find people in there with some T6/6.5 gear still. Maybe not 100% T6/6.5 gear, but probably still some pieces.

The point is that a lot of tier gear will last you a long time. Even T4. For example, I couldn't find a replacement for a T4 chest (Holy) before lvl 78. There are some roughly equivalent chestpieces, but nothing that stands out as being actually superior.

The itemization is just bad on the items. Yeah, it may have more spell power, but it has no Stamina. Or no Int. Or no crit. Or no MP5. etc... That is where I think the previous tier items really win out. They are much better balanced.

I think DPS gear will get replaced earlier since it appears that Blizzard itemized most quest rewards around DPS specs. I assume they figure most people will spec DPS for leveling.


Edited, Nov 6th 2008 10:46am by YJMark

Did you miss the line where I said



or read it and ignore it? I was just showing the lowest-level pieces I could find whose item budgets were on par with Sunwell gear. I'm sure people will carry some 70 epics into Naxx like how some people wore 60 epics into Kara, but my money is on everything in BC having a replacement before Naxx (whether or not you get the drop you need or grind the rep or whatever for that replacement is another thing).

You could be right about healing stuff, not my thing so I didn't look into it, but I expect that leveling gear in Wrath will be like 1-59 or 61-69 gear was, mostly heavy on the basic stats (you didn't see much hit/crit/MP5 until 60, for example, or any ArP/expertise/haste until BT and later ZA/badge). I also suspect that we will have to load up on the basic stats (enough defense to be uncrittable, enough spellpower to to be able to put out enough HPS, etc.) before going back to the fancily itemized stuff we became used to.



Every piece of T4 and most badge gear can (and should) be replaced by Tempered Saronite stuff (http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=tempered+saronite) as soon as you know a BS that can craft it. You WILL need the defense rating to get uncrittable (689 def rating to be uncrittable at 80, you won't be able to comfortably look at stats like dodge and block rating until you're raiding T7/8. Uncrittable is like uncrushable was in BC).

I disagree with the OP. From what I've seen, level 70 kara+ epics should last until 75-77.

In retrospect, what I was really looking at was Wrath blues with the same item budgets as SWP epics. Whether or not they're actually better/replace the BC epics obviously depends on how those item points are distributed. So I'm seeing the possibility of some well-budgeted BC epics (especially ones with sockets, sockets are underbudgeted especially on small-budget pieces like bracers) lasting. My line of thinking of higher item budget = better item was flawed.



Doesn't matter, we vigorously moved this thread offtopic and there's no going back :)

Edited, Nov 6th 2008 3:02pm by Theophastus

You can't do anything about gimped avoidance at fresh 80 if you want to be uncrittable, though. 689 defense rating required at 80. That's a hell of a lot. Being uncrittable is by far the most important thing; according to what I've read from beta, even in leveling instances eating 2 crits in a row will be fatal.

It won't really hurt mana regen though, because Spiritual Attunement will be working harder. Nice synergy - BoSanct does more with high avoidance, SA with low avoidance.