anyone know how much resilience is worth towards defense?
i have multiple sets of tanking gear and in one of them i am about 480 D, i would rather not regem but i have the S2 shield.
just wondering if that would cover me (for now)
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Xordon wrote:
I don't list the resilience stat because it is a PvP stat, and I'll explain just why that is right now.
Resilience lowers your chance to be critically hit. It also reduces the damage you take from DoT's and critical strikes. Now, by only looking at these facts you can come up with the following (assuming a tank's point of view):
+ Resilience helps you get critted less, this is the goal of any tank wishing to enjoy the PvE material of the game past normal instances.
+ Resilience reduces DoT damage you take.
- Resilience lowers the damage you take from crits, which it totally useless once you become uncrittable.
- There aren't enough situations in the game where you're dotted to the extent that resilience would actually be of use to you.
When looking more closely on how these stats work, you'll find the following:
39.4 resilience = -1% crit chance, -1% crit damage, -1% DoT damage (all values are in the case TAKEN).
~40 defense = -0.66% crit chance, +0.66% parry chance, +0.66% dodge chance, +0.66% block chance and +0.66% to be missed.
+ You need ~40 (39.4) resilience rating for -1% chance to be crit, whereas the defense counterpart is at ~60 (cannae be ***** to calculate that more thoroughly) rating for the same number.
- The defense counterpart grants you +parry, +dodge and +block ratings, in addition to crit chance reduction. This is vastly superior to the extras resilience give you.
Resilience is great for opponents that have big enough crit rate to make it impossible for defense to tackle it alone (and you get the benefit that those strikes that aren't negated by resilience with actually hit for less damage anyway). The number of PvE opponents that have a higher base crit rate than normal can be counted on one (or perhaps two) hands.
Resilience lowers your chance to be critically hit. It also reduces the damage you take from DoT's and critical strikes. Now, by only looking at these facts you can come up with the following (assuming a tank's point of view):
+ Resilience helps you get critted less, this is the goal of any tank wishing to enjoy the PvE material of the game past normal instances.
+ Resilience reduces DoT damage you take.
- Resilience lowers the damage you take from crits, which it totally useless once you become uncrittable.
- There aren't enough situations in the game where you're dotted to the extent that resilience would actually be of use to you.
When looking more closely on how these stats work, you'll find the following:
39.4 resilience = -1% crit chance, -1% crit damage, -1% DoT damage (all values are in the case TAKEN).
~40 defense = -0.66% crit chance, +0.66% parry chance, +0.66% dodge chance, +0.66% block chance and +0.66% to be missed.
+ You need ~40 (39.4) resilience rating for -1% chance to be crit, whereas the defense counterpart is at ~60 (cannae be ***** to calculate that more thoroughly) rating for the same number.
- The defense counterpart grants you +parry, +dodge and +block ratings, in addition to crit chance reduction. This is vastly superior to the extras resilience give you.
Resilience is great for opponents that have big enough crit rate to make it impossible for defense to tackle it alone (and you get the benefit that those strikes that aren't negated by resilience with actually hit for less damage anyway). The number of PvE opponents that have a higher base crit rate than normal can be counted on one (or perhaps two) hands.
SHEDri wrote:
anyone know how much resilience is worth towards defense?
i have multiple sets of tanking gear and in one of them i am about 480 D, i would rather not regem but i have the S2 shield.
just wondering if that would cover me (for now)
i have multiple sets of tanking gear and in one of them i am about 480 D, i would rather not regem but i have the S2 shield.
just wondering if that would cover me (for now)
Why do you need multiple tank sets?
I know there's the resistances but I'm just curious as to what your tanks sets are all for.
In any case I would still go for the 490 mark.
Usually tanks who have two tankingsets have them for different situations. I used to have one or multiple mobs, one for melee and one for casters. Multiple mobs: More dodge, parry, block. Melee: def, block. Casters: stam. I nly swapped a few items. Also, you can have tankset for high aggro (more DPS).
I'm no pro tank, I have only tanked Kara before I subdued myself to PvP. It is really no need for multiple tankingsets since its only a minor difference in survivability, however numbercruncher might feel the urge to do so, just to get the extra tad of survivability.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:00pm by Sesseth
I'm no pro tank, I have only tanked Kara before I subdued myself to PvP. It is really no need for multiple tankingsets since its only a minor difference in survivability, however numbercruncher might feel the urge to do so, just to get the extra tad of survivability.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:00pm by Sesseth
i have multiple sets that do different things for me.
i have a set that is based purely around stam, all stam gems, all stam enchants
i have a set that is based purely around avoidance, for bosses like Tidewalker in SSC (for an example, or Prince in Kara) its all enchanted with Dodge, gemed with dodge and the stats built around dodge / parry
i have a threat set, i mix in + hit, and shield blocking stats, so my shield slams and damage is way up (that set im not at 490 defense at the moment, but its geared around making as much threat as possible, and i dont use it for boss fights)
i have a set that is based purely around stam, all stam gems, all stam enchants
i have a set that is based purely around avoidance, for bosses like Tidewalker in SSC (for an example, or Prince in Kara) its all enchanted with Dodge, gemed with dodge and the stats built around dodge / parry
i have a threat set, i mix in + hit, and shield blocking stats, so my shield slams and damage is way up (that set im not at 490 defense at the moment, but its geared around making as much threat as possible, and i dont use it for boss fights)
I have three tank sets, Avoidance for Heroics, Max EH for raiding stuff we don't have on farm, and a Threat set for easier fights.
Get tank points the addon, it works with 3.0, and check to see if your uncrittable.
It will save you time on posting to these kinds of forums.
Get tank points the addon, it works with 3.0, and check to see if your uncrittable.
It will save you time on posting to these kinds of forums.
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