Hi guys!
I have a major prob in PvP vs Resto-Schamis and Holy-Palis. (in S3/S4 gear).
I just cant do enough damage to get them into trouble.
My shred crits for about 1500 and my normal white-hits are at around 120 :-(
They have no prob surviving my stun-rotation and get 1-2 quick-heals through before
i start all over again stunning them. But thats enough to heal them up.
I dont have much PvP gear but incoming damage is not the problem.
I'm sitting at around 3500AP and 40% crit.
Any suggestions how i can crack those classes?
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with out some crazy RNG's you probably aren't going to kill one, but look at the bright side... they wont kill you.
Good luck with pallies at the same gear level as you. Hammer of justice and bubble, combined with the plate armor, make them very hard to kill without a few lucky crits. With shammies, you can kill them if you keep them from healing. You have quite a few ways to do this: Pounce, Maim, Cyclone, Bash, Feral Charge (bear), War stomp (this is assuming you are tauren, ignore if not), restealth > pounce after a maim or cyclone. Generally, I go with something like Pounce, Mangle, shred, tiger's fury, shred, maim to interrupt heal, shred until maim is about to break, bear form, run away a bit before they start the heal so I can charge it, mangle, bash the next heal, mangle, cyclone, cat form, maim, etc. That is actually more than enough to kill one. Watch out for them trying to break los if you break contact to bear charge them. All you have to do is remember you have more than one trick up your sleeve, more than one form to use, more than one way to keep them incapacitated.
I would suggest getting a guildy healer to duel you a few times so you can get the hang of using all your interrupts. Tell them to just spam a quick heal, not actually trying to win, until you are pretty good at interrupts, then do it a few more times with them trying. Hope this helps.
I would suggest getting a guildy healer to duel you a few times so you can get the hang of using all your interrupts. Tell them to just spam a quick heal, not actually trying to win, until you are pretty good at interrupts, then do it a few more times with them trying. Hope this helps.
Anonymosity is correct with the general approach to go about fighting any healer, as the fight will depend entirely on landing interupts in succession. Pallys generally reuire an additional strategy however. The key I find is to lay down enough pressure at the beginning of the fight to force them to bubble then as soon as they do, run away to drop combat. This will allow you to restealth and start the fight over again while they have forbearance. With good use of bleeds and interupts you can kill them while they don't have access to their bubble.
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well, my problem with retadins since 302 was that upon the first melee contact, i was as good as dead. stun > crit burst like mad and even if i somehow managed to survive this, 'twas just a matter of seconds to finish what little i had after that (Hammer of Wrath i guess).
dunno what it's like now after the slight nerf they got in 303, but the former experience i made like 5 times in a row with -1 lvl/similar gear ret (duels).
dunno what it's like now after the slight nerf they got in 303, but the former experience i made like 5 times in a row with -1 lvl/similar gear ret (duels).
Taking down pvp healers is hard most of the time, they have high stamina due to the gear, have an assortment of bubbles/shields and can chuck out large heals. Finally, and most importantly, they are used to high stress healing situations, they are used to healing themselves and others while everyone (including them) is taking a pounding.
Stack all that up and you have a formidable opponent. You will have to be a bit lucky with crits plus you have to time stuns/interupts perfectly in order to take one down (or have help).
By far the hardest is a disc/holy priest, followed by a resto druid, pallies and shammies are not too bad compared with them.
Save your stun and burst for the best time is probably the best advice.
Stack all that up and you have a formidable opponent. You will have to be a bit lucky with crits plus you have to time stuns/interupts perfectly in order to take one down (or have help).
By far the hardest is a disc/holy priest, followed by a resto druid, pallies and shammies are not too bad compared with them.
Save your stun and burst for the best time is probably the best advice.
Priests and Druids are not such of a problem,
cause i almost be able to pawn them down cause of their low armor.
But since 3.0.2 shammies have there instant-heal+hot + earthshield.
I even have hard times to work my way through them...
I'm interrupting all of the casttime-heals but i just cant get through them....sooo frustrating.
but seems like i just need to practice more.
at least i hope so :-D
cause i almost be able to pawn them down cause of their low armor.
But since 3.0.2 shammies have there instant-heal+hot + earthshield.
I even have hard times to work my way through them...
I'm interrupting all of the casttime-heals but i just cant get through them....sooo frustrating.
but seems like i just need to practice more.
at least i hope so :-D
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