I've been running through specs see how they stack up and I noticed that with Focus Magic and a full scortch stack my crit rate for fire should be 40%. Yet in instances and on target dummy I'm only getting around a 20% crit. Are some of the talents bugged or what?
This was taking over a half and hour on a target dummy (cast till oom then drink and reset) and two H MagT runs.
My build is 11/51/0.
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That is odd. Was it a level 80 dummy?
Edit: Not sure about the MgT runs. This is curious. You have some kind of report we can look at?
Edited, Oct 31st 2008 10:53am by Poldaran
Edit: Not sure about the MgT runs. This is curious. You have some kind of report we can look at?
Edited, Oct 31st 2008 10:53am by Poldaran
It was the level 70 and the skull dummies.
I'll test again tonight and screen shot the reports. Didn't think to do that yesterday.
I'll test again tonight and screen shot the reports. Didn't think to do that yesterday.
the skull dummies are 80+, don't expect those to count.
focus magic isn't castable on yourself so you will need someone else there to cast it on while they crit on the same target as you.
focus magic isn't castable on yourself so you will need someone else there to cast it on while they crit on the same target as you.
I just had an arcane buddy of mine test with me. We put the buff on each other.
Edit: Also I thought skulls were suppost to be 3 levels over you regardless of level.
Edited, Oct 31st 2008 1:42pm by Jimpadan
Edit: Also I thought skulls were suppost to be 3 levels over you regardless of level.
Edited, Oct 31st 2008 1:42pm by Jimpadan
Skull means 10+ levels above you, you were attacking a level 83 mob.
Ah, raid boss to a level 80 not 70. My bad.
I am going to assume you are using recount to get your crit rate. Recount has had a long standing problem in miscalculating fireball crit rates because it counts fireball dot ticks as more fireballs cast in the criticalpercent formula, and when that is put into fireball crits/fireballs cast it throws the real crit percent off. I actually havent heard anyone discuss this in a while and hadnt realized it wasnt fixed yet. I would have to go back and look at how recount separates it out but i believe if you look at the spells under the list and do your own math of fireball crits/(fireballcrits+fireballhits+fireballresists) it will give you the actual crit percent.
Toxicityoh wrote:
I am going to assume you are using recount to get your crit rate. Recount has had a long standing problem in miscalculating fireball crit rates because it counts fireball dot ticks as more fireballs cast in the criticalpercent formula, and when that is put into fireball crits/fireballs cast it throws the real crit percent off. I actually havent heard anyone discuss this in a while and hadnt realized it wasnt fixed yet. I would have to go back and look at how recount separates it out but i believe if you look at the spells under the list and do your own math of fireball crits/(fireballcrits+fireballhits+fireballresists) it will give you the actual crit percent.
Interesting. I do believe a test with another addon is in order.
I am using recount but it doesn't seem to me (just making note of crits when I see them) that I'm at the 40% I should be at. I still haven't gone back and screen shotted it for you guys. I'm getting to it I just haven't had the time in the last few days.
The recount problem is just a guess, around the time patch 2.4 came out i was dr boom testing and getting the same problem.
15% crit on multiple parses when should have been closer to 35%. I did some checking and found out then that it was recount reading fireball dots wrong. I am not sure if it still has that problem but with what you were describing there is a good chance that is it, especially if it is a problem only with fireball spell.
15% crit on multiple parses when should have been closer to 35%. I did some checking and found out then that it was recount reading fireball dots wrong. I am not sure if it still has that problem but with what you were describing there is a good chance that is it, especially if it is a problem only with fireball spell.
I actually had a similar issue when the patch came out. I thought it might just be me watching closer for hot streak procs, but my crit rate did seem to go down. Not up by 10% like you would think with the scorch change. I didn't use an addon to count, it was just a personal feeling.
Then I switched to frost.
Then I switched to frost.
I did some more testing (read ran alot more instances) and my crit rate is where it should be. I haven't been back to the test dummy yet though.
try running a WWS (wowwebstats) report and see what you come up with. Mine is quite excellent lately, raid buffed I am hitting around 60-65% crit with fireball.
last brutallus:
http://wowwebstats.com/6gxi2eyxrxrpa?s=127782-157815&a=x141cc8f
68% fireball, 85% pyroblast, 80% scorch :-)
Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 8:40pm by Anobix
last brutallus:
http://wowwebstats.com/6gxi2eyxrxrpa?s=127782-157815&a=x141cc8f
68% fireball, 85% pyroblast, 80% scorch :-)
Edited, Nov 2nd 2008 8:40pm by Anobix
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hey there
I think the Focus Magic buff is bugged i am not casting it on other mages because is does not work but just cast it on other spellcasters. Think Blizz will fix the issue on next patch or in wrath. And could be fine if they fix "bomb" think for stacking too.
Trold
I think the Focus Magic buff is bugged i am not casting it on other mages because is does not work but just cast it on other spellcasters. Think Blizz will fix the issue on next patch or in wrath. And could be fine if they fix "bomb" think for stacking too.
Trold
Troldeerind wrote:
hey there
I think the Focus Magic buff is bugged i am not casting it on other mages because is does not work but just cast it on other spellcasters. Think Blizz will fix the issue on next patch or in wrath. And could be fine if they fix "bomb" think for stacking too.
Trold
I think the Focus Magic buff is bugged i am not casting it on other mages because is does not work but just cast it on other spellcasters. Think Blizz will fix the issue on next patch or in wrath. And could be fine if they fix "bomb" think for stacking too.
Trold
Both should be fixed with the 3.03 patch which I am guessing is coming out week of release date.
How are you getting 65% crit, I mean damn.
65
10 Scortch
5 Boomkin aura
3 Focus Magic
- 3 Wrath Totem
44 base crit with fire talents
Thats pretty insane.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 12:23pm by Jimpadan
65
10 Scortch
5 Boomkin aura
3 Focus Magic
- 3 Wrath Totem
44 base crit with fire talents
Thats pretty insane.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 12:23pm by Jimpadan
Molten armor brings me to around 35% chance to crit, +9% fire all fire spells brings me to 44. Add the 6% from world in flames gives me a straight up 50% chance to crit with pyroblast as well.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:51pm by Anobix
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:51pm by Anobix
Oops double post.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:50pm by Anobix
Edited, Nov 3rd 2008 1:50pm by Anobix
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