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#1 Oct 25 2008 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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ATM i have a lvl 24 human warrior who is fury specced. he dual wields and ive stacked on str and agi. but he seems to die really fast and doesnt do as much dmg as i was hoping.

i just dont know what my gear should look like, what weapons i should be using, or which stance/moves i should be focusing on. and i have checked the warrior faq, but i didnt see anything that would answer my question. so any help from you more experienced warriors would be cool.
#2 Oct 25 2008 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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armory?
#3 Oct 25 2008 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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haha sorry i forgot to post :P
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#4 Oct 25 2008 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
Not sure about that low of level, but right now my advice is to level as protection. You'll do plenty of damage, have much less downtime, and have a much greater level of control over the fight. Also you'll more easily find groups and be a more useful group member.

I'm biased though, protection is a beast right now.
#5 Oct 25 2008 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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i dont plan on grouping at all, straight questing
#6 Oct 25 2008 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
drewbeeone wrote:
i dont plan on grouping at all, straight questing


I'd recommend making a different class then. Warriors are a group oriented class.
#7 Oct 25 2008 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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well at least until i get maxxed out lvl lol, i personaly think that doing groups and stuff is just time wasted.
#8 Oct 25 2008 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
Go the Arms route for leveling. I found that leveling my Warrior as Arms, swinging around a big-@$$ two-handed weapon makes life SOO much easier than having to worry about Fury.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonmaw&n=Argoroth

That's my talent build right there. I just enter a fight, in Battle Stance, with Charge, immediately apply Rend, HS until Overpower procs, then HS again. Things die like NOTHING! Leveling has never been easier or more fun! I find that I can also handle much more mobs at one time.

Another thing you want to look at is gear. For gear, you just want Stamina and Strength. Agility is a good secondary stat, but Str. and Stam. are what you need the most. Search the Armory for good gear. Look for "...of the Bear" gear, too, as this is what you REALLY need!



Edited, Oct 25th 2008 11:17pm by ryraptor
#9 Oct 26 2008 at 5:11 AM Rating: Good
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i figured since agility gives you more crit chance and armor, itd be a more viable spec to stack onto. or is it reall not even worth it?
#10 Oct 26 2008 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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well at least until i get maxxed out lvl lol, i personaly think that doing groups and stuff is just time wasted.


Are you kidding me? There's stuff in instances that can easily last you at least 10 levels. I wouldn't say obtaining gear like that is wasted. Specially as a warrior, stuff like that would speed up soloing by a fair amount.
#11 Oct 26 2008 at 10:46 AM Rating: Default
at lvl 20 i went DW fury, people say the lack of hit makes it not worth it but i loved it.

obv if i found a great 2handed weapon i would swaop to that, but stay gury.

In the end i stayed fury but always had imp slam so i could swap between 2hander DW.

Now with imp slam in the Arms tree, its a bit trickier, but i would still go DW fury for leveling, but please...PLEASE dont think when you turn 60 and get TG wielding two 2handers will improve you DPS....it wont. Stay with two 1handers.

I went fury unyil 70 and tanked every instance along the way atleast once, so no problem with gettign instance groups, jsut done be arrogant and think cos you are DPS you have to DPS instances....many priests are guilty of this being shadow and refusing to heal.

But many people will tell ypu its down to you,....that is totally true, i jsu tLOVE DW fury, and now im realy pissed that Arms has overtaken us in DPS.

When arms(and retardins) starts doing more DPS in PVE than DW fury you know somethign is wrong with the game

#12 Oct 26 2008 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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i know this may sound a little bit odd to some people, but i actually split my talents between fury and arms.why? because i think that getting the immediate benefits from each of the trees is better than getting the half decent ones trying to get to the good ones in a single tree. and i also got a shield to use :P because i got new gear that actually gives me less health, but i noticed that i do kill things faster. so i think i got it all down.

surprisingly enough defensive stance actually does some good dmg lmao. i use revenge a lot, and i get like 200 hits with it, pretty cool i think. i also switch out of stances a lot, i got to battle stance when i start to charge, then do a rend and then just switch to defense to do ravenge until they die.

i know this is a very awkward way to build your warrior, but i think it works. if on of them leet warriors who think otherwise(there usually is for every class forum) then let me know.
#13 Oct 27 2008 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Mozared wrote:
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well at least until i get maxxed out lvl lol, i personaly think that doing groups and stuff is just time wasted.


Are you kidding me? There's stuff in instances that can easily last you at least 10 levels. I wouldn't say obtaining gear like that is wasted. Specially as a warrior, stuff like that would speed up soloing by a fair amount.


Too bad you're wrong. If your goal is simply to reach end level the quickest way possible then grouping for instances is a waste of time. It's nice for when you want to break up the tedium of leveling. But I wouldn't touch anything before ZF and even ZF sucks.

If it's your first toon I would recommend grouping more than average. You'll learn a lot better that way for end game. Just solo while having the lfg on. If it's not I would just solo all the way to 50 or 60 and maybe do ZF and ST.









Lorimath wrote:
Not sure about that low of level, but right now my advice is to level as protection. You'll do plenty of damage, have much less downtime, and have a much greater level of control over the fight. Also you'll more easily find groups and be a more useful group member.

I'm biased though, protection is a beast right now.


Protection is nicer at 60+. Before that go arms or fury. I prefer the arms route. Mostly because I have a rogue and I wanted the different 2h. You will last longer as prot but the fights are slower.


#14 Oct 27 2008 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
drewbeeone wrote:
well at least until i get maxxed out lvl lol, i personaly think that doing groups and stuff is just time wasted.


I'm going to have to disagree. Warriors are very gear dependant, so any gear you get that is an upgrade is a direct upgrade on your leveling smoothness and speed. A warrior leveling in quest greens is a slow leveling warrior. Also, instances are great xp, especially if you planned your leveling routes around it and have a slew of quests to finish.

Lastly, imo, the group experiences are always the more fun experiences. Even if it takes a little longer, I'll still stall my leveling to run some instances simply because they are more fun. They also teach you your role in instances and groups.

I make an effort to run each instance at least once while leveling. The only character I did not do this on was my hunter, who I made to be my gold gathering toon.
#15 Oct 27 2008 at 5:50 PM Rating: Good
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if i ever get 3 or more quests for an instace, i will definately group for one.

but the whole gear thing i dont really think matters, because blizz always makes decent enough gear for everyclass no matter where you lvl or what your lvl is. and i level in every place possible (no joke) so i dont really care about gear too much, besides this isnt my first char, i know how groups work and stuff (not a lot but enough) and i if i ever need an upgrade for gear ill just get on my druid and buy stuff at AH.

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I'm going to have to disagree. Warriors are very gear dependant, so any gear you get that is an upgrade is a direct upgrade on your leveling smoothness and speed.
i think their only very dependant on gear in end game...not so much lvling. and the time it takes to actualy get the gear isnt worth it, because its not guaranteed.

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Lastly, imo, the group experiences are always the more fun experiences. Even if it takes a little longer, I'll still stall my leveling to run some instances simply because they are more fun.
i have enough fun just talking to my friends in guild and on vent, i dont mind lvling until i can do end game stuff with them, if i want to bad enough ill go on a higher lvl char. and you just said yourself that running some instances takes a little bit longer :P

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I make an effort to run each instance at least once while leveling. The only character I did not do this on was my hunter, who I made to be my gold gathering toon.

im just curious but whys your hunter a gold gathering toon? lol hes on a different server from your others :P

#16 Oct 27 2008 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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drewbeeone wrote:
i think their only very dependant on gear in end game...not so much lvling. and the time it takes to actualy get the gear isnt worth it, because its not guaranteed.

Warrior is one of the most gear-dependent classes during the leveling process. Gear will *help* any class, but many other classes have other ways to get around the gear issue if they have to (I'm looking at you, Warlocks and Hunters). Short of "Hamstring, try to run away, get dazed, and die" a Warrior has very few tools to remove himself from combat, very limited ability to CC adds, and no self-healing ability to speak of.

Up-to-date armor and weapons can be the difference between cruising through quests and cruising through corpse runs.
#17 Oct 28 2008 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
It really depends on what like to do. Just like someone state your gear will drive to a certain tree. If you like weapon & shield I tell you should go prot because a lot of improvement in tree thank to new patch which makes possible to level in this tree. I person like arms because I like using 2hand weapon, If you like using dw they go fury. If you not sure experiment. Pre-patch I probably would told go fury or arms only.
#18 Oct 28 2008 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent
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tabstopper wrote:
Up-to-date armor and weapons can be the difference between cruising through quests and cruising through corpse runs.


Up-to-date armor and weapons can make a difference. Instances don't offer good enough upgrades in the lower levels to make it worth the time.
#19 Oct 28 2008 at 9:52 AM Rating: Good
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The warrior that "dies really fast and doesn't do much damage" is also saying that he doesn't think gear is that important before end-game....
#20 Oct 28 2008 at 10:11 AM Rating: Default
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Grollog wrote:
The warrior that "dies really fast and doesn't do much damage" is also saying that he doesn't think gear is that important before end-game....


Yeah but he's also a stupid scrub that doesn't know how to play.

I can level a warrior faster than you without touching a single instance until at least 50. And dying less than you.
#21 Oct 28 2008 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
I level to 60 with most of my toon without doing instance. Instance mainly for getting better gear which is not necessary until go to outworld. Don't get me wrong with better gear it makes lower levels easier & can be fun running low instance just not necessary.
#22 Oct 28 2008 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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The warrior that "dies really fast and doesn't do much damage" is also saying that he doesn't think gear is that important before end-game....
yeah everybody knows that it doesnt just depend on your gear, i was only saying that compared to endgame, gear isnt as important because nobody else depends on you. so if its just me i have to worry about, of course my gear isnt going to matter as much than if i were in a raid...got it?

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Yeah but he's also a stupid scrub that doesn't know how to play.

I can level a warrior faster than you without touching a single instance until at least 50. And dying less than you.
thanks? why would you call me a stupid scrub when im just trying to better myself lvling. of course i dont know how to play a warrior...i started this topic to be constructive, and that just doesnt help. i dont see why your bashing me,in every forum there are the more experienced players that are harsh, but they still help. that was just uncalled for.

Edited, Oct 28th 2008 3:17pm by drewbeeone
#23 Oct 28 2008 at 11:18 AM Rating: Default
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drewbeeone wrote:
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The warrior that "dies really fast and doesn't do much damage" is also saying that he doesn't think gear is that important before end-game....
yeah everybody knows that it doesnt just depend on your gear, i was only saying that compared to endgame, gear isnt as important because nobody else depends on you. so if its just me i have to worry about, of course my gear isnt going to matter as much than if i were in a raid...got it?

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Yeah but he's also a stupid scrub that doesn't know how to play.

I can level a warrior faster than you without touching a single instance until at least 50. And dying less than you.
thanks? why would you call me a stupid scrub when im just trying to better myself lvling of course i dont know how to play a warrior...i started this topic to be constructive. and that just doesnt help. i dont see why your bashing me,in every forum there are the more experienced players that are harsh, but they still help. that was just uncalled for.


I wasn't calling you a stupid scrub.
#24 Oct 28 2008 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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As for the OP...

Gear should look like greens of at most 5 levels old. The closer your gear is to your level the better, easier and faster you'll play.

I personally leveled with dual wield as fury spec pre-bc (just before nax 1.0 came out). So my idea of leveling is gonna be slightly biased towards that older idea of how to build a warrior from the ground up. I also did not group 75% of the time or more, at least until I got into a guild that wanted me to MT, and PL'd me to 60 from ~50 on where they non stop grouped me.

'Of the Tiger' and 'Of the Bear' gear until you get to BC gear tend to provide the best bang for your buck. Obviously their are other non-generic equivalents to those. Gear with Str on it should be priority. Sta and Agi are great to stack as well. Leveling, you don't want to take much damage, dieing sucks. So the dodge you get from Agi is coveted. But honestly it's the Crit that I really want from it. Kill it before it kills you... And the faster you can do that, the more fun/easy it is (IMHO).

Warriors have absolutely no problem leveling solo, but their are some fairly clear differences of gear and level when fighting certain mobs. Either you can do it, or you can't. Some quests and mobs are just not solo-able as a warrior. And you'll be behind other warriors that do chose to group. Partly due to downtime from eating often and bandaging, but mostly because instancing is much better Exp and you get way better gear for basically free.

Warriors are dependent on gear from level 1, all classes benefit from better gear, but I feel that warriors are specifically more dependent than the others.
#25 Oct 28 2008 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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devioususer wrote:
but mostly because instancing is much better Exp


No, it's not.
#26 Oct 28 2008 at 6:28 PM Rating: Default
I'm going prot route right now. Only level 18. I just love the extra armor from a shield. Yeah kills may be slower but I learn to tank better. I tanked dm the other day and didn't do half bad job for first time having to hold hate. Was kinda fun. If it starts to really slow down. I'll spec to Arms and use a 2h. I have a rogue and don't want 2 dw classes.
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