A few Enhancement questions...Follow

I haven't had the chance to get online since the patch due to my account being frozen. I will be online this weekend for the first time in a month or so.
I've been looking at the talents, new spells, etc.
I'm thinking about taking this build:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hV0hZbxgcoxzAIkubot
(I am most intrerested in PvE. Very little PvP.)

How much did your dps increase/decrease with the new itemization?

And lastly, what should I be doing as far as my spell rotation to maximize dps? (I've been browsing through the elitistjerks forums, but it seems to technical for me.)

Thanks for the help.

I went from 820dps to ~1000dps with the patch. Also, I think the windfury glyph does 40% more AP, not damage (thought 40% more damage would be awesome).

It's a fairly solid build. 1 change I would recommend, and only because you said your focus would be PvE rather than PvP. Lose the 3 points in Elemental Devastation and fill out Enhancing Totems and Imp WF Totem. If you ALWAYS have another shammy along who will be dropping these then disregard this advice and just move the 2 points from ET to IWFT.

I took the windfury and flameshock glyphs...don't have any minors yet as they are still pricey on my server.

edit: now i'm reading that flameshock is dead for the new patch so I might reconsider it.

Edited, Oct 28th 2008 11:27am by Ailitardif

Is Flametongue Weapon worth it with Lava Lash, or should I continue using Windfury on both weapons?

This build is pretty much the cookie cutter for raiding/pve right now, there are a few tweaks that could up personal dps (static charge) but then other factors come into play like mana, raid buffs, etc, depends on your focus and how many enh shammy's ya raid with, but this is the core:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hV0hZhxxcoxdAIkuoot

Hit is the most important stat now, gotta max out your spell hit to 164 (food buff for 20, 144 needed, also if draenei) after that is reached (hit enchant for gloves, replace gems) swap the rest for agility or whatevers needed for your meta. While this is hard to realize at first, i actually swapped out bt gear for some za stuff and kara rings so I could get my hit up, while this did make my ap go down from the initial increase from the changes from the patch, this did translate to a increase in dps, just saying ya got more ap doesn't mean much if your missing 50% of your casts

wf mainhand/ft off is putting out higher dps for most

For spell roatations, step one, take flame shock off your tool bar, step two, use ss, lava rush, and earthshock whenever they are up (no order) and lightninig bolt or chain lightning whenever maelstrom is 5/5


edited to fix link and to make a bit clearer for some.
Edited, Nov 4th 2008 1:17am by Kulligan

Edited, Nov 4th 2008 1:32am by Kulligan

Are you seriously advocating taking Imp GW instead of Imp WF totem for a raid build? And Static Shock... just lol.

Sorry, forgot to link the build before I pasted link, so I had just posted the same build as the op, fixed now...

And, as for static shock, I don't run it since we don't run 2 enh, but yes, it is possible to get a higher dps build using static shock, you give up your raid buffs, but if your guild runs two enh shammy's then one can spec into it with no worry's. Is there some part of that you don't understand? Static shock + improved orbs = chance for extra damage with every hit, and if another shammy is specced into improved totems what are you missing out on in a raid? Seems pretty simple to me... just lol

When the patch first hit I ran out of mana all the time, pvp, farming, testing, etc, I thought enh was at its end for raiding and ready to reroll but then in my first raid after 3.02 I changed my mind. I never, ever, fall below 50% mana, just doesn't happen, with raid buffs, spriests, and retadins, etc, and I'm casting every chance I get with earth shock and chain lightning. While most of us will never benefit from the orb/static build, it is a higher dps build under the right situations (two enh shammys in end game raiding basically), without a doubt is not for everyone, but is not a utter waist if you meet those requirements, there isn't a better place for the points again, if and only if you are raiding with two enh shammy's.

Dude, are you just trolling or what, everything you are arguing about has been discussed in other posts, this will be my last one in this thread, if ya feel the need to keep arguing about moot points and feel important, have at it. I guess I could spell out how this talent works but I figured most would be able to understand it.

First, I never "advocated" for the op to take static shock, I simply stated what I thought to be the cookie-cutter build (the linked build), mentioned there were other builds that could yield higher dps but were not for everyone, at which point you went on this tangent about "static shock" and how it sucks.

Second, are you in a raiding guild? Why in the world are you talking about rl stuff, etc., I think we all understand how rl works, if you were to spec this way, I'd think you were pretty sure you would have a 2nd enh shammy raiding, and if they didn’t show one night, go respec before the raid, not that big a deal...

Third, you can't take the points out of et? If your not 5/5 ak you fail at enh. Call of flame? Let’s see, no lava burst as enh, and +5% dmg on fire totems, yea ok, convection or totemic focus, who has mana issues? Not I. There are no better talents to take if you’re dropping your totem buffs than imp shields and static shock.

No one is arguing that anyone should take static shock over enh totems, etc, I just mentioned that it is a build, if you’re comparing talent to talent, sure the others look better on paper, but you’re missing what this is about. What I linked above is a great raiding build that I would recommend to most, for pvp, leveling, etc, I would change several things around.

Lastly, you are missing the point, go read EJ some more, run enhsim, do some testing on your own, who knows, alot of shammy's are running a static shock build for max personal dps when they are raiding with two enh's shammy's, I'm not talking about 5mans, 10 mans, the static deal is for end game raiding only, under the right circumstances, and yields the highest dps, your inability to understand how the talent works and how it could benefit in the right situation is sad, and the argument your making is just misguided and irrelevant, really, go do some more research.

So I changed my mind, one last post

Here's the build idea, ya gotta spec into improved orbs to take full advatage of static:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hV0hZ0xxIoxzAIkusox

and I never reccomended static shock over anything, simply listed it as another option, once you see me post "I reccomend static shock over xyz" then you can bust my chops over it. Guess I should put for anyone reading this thread, do not spec into the build in this post, it is just an example...

Jiade, is there a reason you have taken 2/2 Imp SS but only 2/3 DW Spec, or is it just an oopsie? :-)

Well at least we know where the last point goes in your 80 build.