Protection Warrior PeeVeePee Huh?Follow

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Okay, with the new patch rolling in, I've tried both the arms and the fury specs. Thought Titan's Grip was neat but unsatisfying as a new skill and thought Blade Storm was really cool in how it does so much damage in so little time. So I've just been chilling, doing random stuff, and doing Hallow's Eve achievments when my Ret pally cousin wanted to do arenas for 1800 rating for the weapon. And we both realized that Ret paladins are incredibly overpowered for short term encounters. So I thought, hmm... maybe his burst damage and my bladestorm can actually help us win arena matches. So far we only got as high as 1700. But that night, after my cousin logged off, I thought it was impossible for a ret paladin/warrior team to get 1800 so I asked trade channel what the optimal partner for a ret paladin would be in 2v2. And for some odd reason, almost everyone answered, PROT warriors. Now, I sat there doubtful, thinking to myself "wtf?". I constantly thought that trade chat people were just being stupid and misleading so I talked to the one of the guys who suggested me the idea and decided to see for myself how prot has changed. So I switched to Prot and I instantly fell in love with it. The increased damage, and the survivalability just killed me right there. I found myself completing the "Iron Man" Achievment without any effort in WSG and other things that I couldn't have even dreamed of like 4 vs 1 situations where I actually came out alive. So then I thought to myself, "hmm, this might actually work."
But with very little experience with "prot pvp" I have many questions.

What gear should I wear? s4/3 PvP set? T6 Fury set? T4/5 Tanking set?

What weapon should I use? S2 axe or the Siphon from Supremus?

What shield should I use? Bulwark of the Amani Empire or S2 shield?

What should be my role in a Ret/Prot team?

What are some core talents that make Prot Warriors viable for PvP?

What are prot warriors' strengths and weaknesses?

What classes should I watch out for?

Thank you in advance, and much appreciated :)

Have to state I've got fairly limited warrior knowledge, so if I get corrected the person to correct me is probably right. Here's my try though.



To be honest, I think it depends. The PvP set would get you more damage but less survivability. A tanking set would give you pretty insane survivability but less damage.

For a ret pallie/warrior combo... do a few skirmishes to see how it plays. I understands why everybody said prot warrior; a ret pallie can't really be nuked down as he has his bubble. Eventually, people will have to go for you. As prot, you have the insane survivability to take that beating, while dishing out enough damage to keep going.



DPS with minor CC. You can provide timely concussion blows.



Armored to the Teeth goes without saying I think. Aditionally... Toughness, Concussion Blow, Gag Order, Warbringer and Shockwave. Possibly imp Disarm or imp Spell Reflection, but don't pin me on those.



Seems obvious, not? Your strength is that you've got the single best survivability in the game and are pretty much unkiteable... Your weakness is your relatively low damage output; you automatically turn basically every fight into an endurance one, and for classes with average to good endurance and high DPS that could kill you.



Mage might still be tough, but I think Warbringer solves quite a lot of your problems with them. Warlocks might give you major problems (You'll only be able to break fear/seduction so many times, and even when you're near SL/SL 'locks take next-to-no damage). Boomkins might be trouble (they have a ******** of survivability ánd deal pretty badass damage), and protadins would probably be your anti-class.

So far, Warbringer + Glyph of Charge + Glyph of Rapid Charge + Intervene makes me a speed demon. It's incredible.

can you share your hotkey setup as prot zip? id really like to make prot work in pvp, but everytime i do it its feels awkward, and i definetely dont feel like i trump any class im put against.

My keys set up is:

1) Charge
2) Revenge
3) deve
4) HS
5) TC
6) shield block

Shift-1) Taunt(obv not used for pvp)
Shift-2) Shockwave
Shift-3) Shidle slam
Shift-4) conc blow

Middle mouse) Shield bash
Capps) Escape artsit/Trinket macro

`(Key next to 1)) Intimidation shout
Shift `) Spell reflect

F1/2/3) Stances

I'm having a hard time deciding. I want to play Prot in PvP, but is it worth it? I am currently specced Bladestorm and I have been arm PvP quite a while, but from what I've seen of prot warrs, it looks helluva fun! I used to play prot PvP, but it sucked. I couldn't kill sh*t! If I do respecc, what would my talents look like.
This is what I've come up with:Prot PvP

Is it viable? I skipped Damage Shield due to lack of SBV items. I have some, but only blues (rings, Time Warden leggins, belt, neck and back). Also, would I want to get Def or Resi? Other stats that is mucho importante?

This is my warrior atm: Thorûr

I'm willing to regem, swap out items, get new enchants, but I won't get my hands on any good epic tankpieces due to lack of playtime.

Any other heads up, reminders or tips are most appreciated!


1st edit: Link errors
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Edited, Oct 24th 2008 2:09pm by Sesseth

Edited, Oct 24th 2008 2:12pm by Sesseth

I put them into puncture instead =p

Actually in duels and 2v2's I find myself with too much rage to spend. Granted, I wear full pvp gear + shield instead of tanking gear. I still take as much damage as any other warrior with a shield. Rage gen is fine I think.
And the 6 second silence from Gag Order is amazing.

Wel i have tried prot. i have beeen prot for a long time now. and also it work s very nicely, i have ALOT of stuns. 4 of them. i hit for 2k with shild slam, i kill 70 rouges. i people with better gear. i also can charge when im in cobat i charge while in frost nova, and when im slowed.. i kill eveything and i can do shild block where i block EVERYTHING for 10sec///// works nicly