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I have been looking everywhere for any help on Talent(pet and character) and macros to get the most DPS now that shot rotations are gone.

Before the patch my character always the had the highest DPS in any bg, instance, or raid. Now, my numbers seem to be cut in half.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arathor&n=Kaetamoon

I have Don's Gun if anyone thinks that would help, but I'm not talking about maximizing my DPS, I'm talking about finding it! Hitting for 200 a shot with a crits @ 800, That’s down by a 1/3 and I’d say embarrassing.

I've tried all the talent specs posted, and nothing. I have a core hound that is putting out less dps than my cat.

Off of the pet character sheets
Damage was 389-409 Cat
Damage was 189-225 Scorpid
Damage was 301-325 Core hound

I feel the problem is a combination of macros and talents. I still just spam my macros.

/cast steady shot
/cast arcane shot
/cast multi shot

Lag is a huge problem on my server as well.....Can you fix that too, j/k.

My questions are: What is a good BM spec?
What is a good pet spec?
What is everyone writing in their macros now that there is NO shot rotation???????

I'm sure there is probably some simple answer, but I haven't found it.

Thank you in advance

I had same issue, try this thread:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=5;mid=1224263705207961499;num=3;page=1

Make sure you kill all add-ons, put new ones in and revamp your UI. Without doing that, my steadyshot was bugged giving me about half dps from before.

Your macros need to be updated as I point out in the thread. There is some debate about the utility of Kill Command and other past macro functions like Rapid Fire, etc. You can put them in or leave them out to test. You now have test dummies. Go for it.

You're a ****** if you still need a macro to shoot the right shots.


For BM literally all you do is chain steadyshots and use BW/KC/RF/Trinkets whenever they're up.

Lol i don't know what you guys are doing, my build sucks and my gear sucks but i can break 1k DPS easily

The DPS on my bow with ap factored in is 243 per second, using aspect of the beast, then i have like a 2.1 attack speed or 1.9 whatever it is... So my steady shot hits 413-500ish damage no crits which is about which is a little over what my bows white damage hits. Granted that has a 2 sec cast (2.0 attack speed) cut that in half it's roughly 206.5-250ish DPS so add that onto my 243.6 i already have I'm sitting at about 500 DPS granted i don't critically hit, i always serphent sting, and make sure and use my arcane shot cd

So my arcane shot hits about 500-600ish damage no crits, with a 6 sec cd, so thats 100 more dps but we're gonna say 80 to b safe. Serphent sting, i don't pay to much attention to it but it's safe to say it deals about 715-755 damage over it's duration, which would be about 151 a tick every 3 seconds. Divide it by 3 which is 50 damage per second. So with arcane shot and serphent sting that's 130 extra DPS onto my 500 dps (none of that has crits in it) which then puts us at 630 DPS

My core hound breaks a stunning 509 DPS in BW, but without it he's at like 396~409 dps with his white damage but using his self buffs. factor in he's clawing and doing his fire thing that's at least an extra 20-30 DPS being safe which puts him at 430 DPS onto my 630 which is 1060 DPS

This is horribly mana innefficent but who cares because the new aspect of the viper ROX. Also this is granted I never hit a critical hit during this period. (i have a 21% chance to crit with range) this is also using aspect of the beast. and nothing but serphent sting, arcane shot, steady shot, pet, pet skills. So i still have rapid fire and BW which could increase this number (1060 dps) by at least 30-60%. Then provided we do crit sometime that could add at least 150-500 DPS but we'll say 200.

So With my crappy stubborn build (dietoliveko, shu'halo server) With CD's i can spam an easy 1.8k- 2k DPS which i would b able to do for 18 sec so thats 36000 during BW. However I would maintain a safe 1k provided i never crit. But with crits, i'd prolly b at 1.2k then facotr in that i may miss of the target will dodge, I'm at an easy steady 1.1k DPS

Idk about you guys but my gear isn't great and i was pulling 400 DPS (i rarely used the 1:1 rotation) in kara before the patch but now i'm destructive. Any1 on the shu'halo server i'll gladly have a DPS competition/dual/fight to show/test this. Hunters did not get their DPS cut at all...

I love you...

i didn't explain alot of the stuff i did though, like I focus more on my pet than me Beast mastery does dps by not only the hunter but the beast too, (in my case mostly the beast) so i always use aspect of the beast to improve his attack power (it gives more than my aspect of the hawk for him)

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 12:45pm by potsoriginal

I'm using a modification of Manito's macro.
http://www.bigredkitty.net/forums/index.php?topic=1003.0
http://www.bigredkitty.net/forums/index.php?topic=2364.0

Now that clipping has been eliminated the old shot rotations are useless. There's still advantage in using macros, mostly to prioritize your pet's focus for certain skills.

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 11:18am by ItsaGaAs