New aspect of the viperFollow

Hi guys yesterday i went out and did an instance with a couple of buddies and i had my aspect of the viper on , and i must say that the new change to this is awesome!. Every time the tank was fighting and i would provide support i kept switching between serpent sting, arcane, and steady. I never ran out of mana once it was always full. Yeah i cant just stand around anymore when not fighting and get my mana back but this is better cause it keeps things moving and has reduced the hunters downtime even more when soloing. PVP may be a bit more difficult switching between hawk and serpent but i dont bother with that if im outta man in bg im probably dead anyway.

Just my 2 cents on a positive change

I only do what works for me, and this works for me lol. Im BM spec but I like to run with mana at all times in case things go bad. To be honest i really only use hawk for pvp. I think my dps is ok im not a hardcore player or anything so i don't know the numbers. I can always use rapid killing, and i get that haste boost as well as beast within. And with serpent sting running i do quite well. Only my opinion though, when i go to these things ppl don't complain but they could silently be cursing my name lol.

EDIT: I have not yet done a single raid so it may be different in there. Is there a addon that u can recommend for me to use that i can see my damage output so i can better judge what aspect i use?

Edited, Oct 17th 2008 11:07am by nevercrits

Playing the way you choose to isnt half assed my friend its called thinking for yourself and enjoying the game. I play the game for enjoyment not to be a mindless drone. Thanks for the tip though self righteous wow snob.

Edit: If you hadn't noticed i also asked for a addon recommendation to see how i could be better ...but ppl only see what they want to see, hats off to an *** hat!

Edited, Oct 17th 2008 11:42am by nevercrits

Thats better advice thank you, I will get the addon and use hawk more often. Im a more casual player so i don't know all the best things to do... when i got my hawk aspect on though the numbers looked the same to me so i just switched to viper as it gave me a mana return. If its only seconds (or a few shots)then i shouldn't need to worry to much.

Thanks for the info.

Edited, Oct 17th 2008 11:55am by nevercrits

In Kara I've never had to worry about mana during anything but bossfights. I keep Hawk up all the time. During a boss fight, I will only switch to Viper at 30% mana remaning and AFTER all potions and other mana generators are on CD. Viper is a damage killer. It's almost better to fire autoshots on normal mana regen than to go Viper, and wait out the pot CD. I have to see a lot of health left on the boss before I'll change to Viper against them. I don't know about the current Viper but it looks to be a similar issue.

Yeah, it's a timing thing though. If you have 12 seconds left on your CD for pots it's almost not worth it to switch. You wouldn't get enough mana back under the old viper to warrant switching as compared to waiting the 12 and potting. It also depends on the boss health level, if they are about dead and the party is fine, it wouldn't drop your dps enough over that long of a fight to really even dent it.

It's just a preference thing here I guess but I only go to Viper if I absolutely have to, and it's usually when my RL dumps me in a different group from the Shammy which ticks me off.... >:(

I'm a solo player. Havn't begun to get into pvping unless its just a friendly challenge. I use aspect of the viper occasionaly. In an instance...there isn't no way lol. I'm not being yelled at for not doing the damage I know my hunter can and is supposed to do. But when soloing I do use it quite a bit as it keeps a steady and constant mob to mob going. Even though its a 40% damage reduction I still kill pretty quickly. Just never in an instance. Like I ran underbog and used hawk the whole time. My mana seemed to be ok.

I'm just waiting for the right build to show up. I'm seeing 50/11's and 51/10's. I'm using the 51/10 as the 4 xtra points are worth it I think. If not prove me wrong please...I deserve it.

That's an interesting idea, but don't forget that RF is essentially a % modifier on your dps, so to hit that when you're not doing full damage will lower your dps. It will of course limit time in viper which will raise your dps. I'd guess that lining up rapid fire with TBW and trinkets is still better overall though. And apparently it's not an issue (I didn't really think it would be) so no worries!

The potion sickness sucks, only 1 pot per fight. If you pop a haste pot then your only getting 15 seconds worth of benefit from it (which is big in that timeframe). As a hunter, it is impossible to run out of mana if you have somebody judging wisdom on the target. I was doing gorefiend the other day and somebody didnt judge wisdom to start, my mana went down to about 20% in about 90 seconds, at which time I asked if it was judged (obviously not). Once it was put up I was back to full in less than 15 seconds, all while in hawk, never reverting to viper.

If you are soloing and don't care about anything else, then do what makes you happy. Don't let anybody else ruin your experience. However, if you want to perform better and are asking for help to do so, then be prepared to take some harsh "criticism". You'll get some good info and advice, but it probably won't be with a spoonfull of sugar.