And here are the Ret changesFollow

I played with the Hotnerfs tonight and they did not really seem that bad to me. DPS was only slightly down and I ended fights with maybe 2/3 mana instead of full. Thats using consecrate even. My Ret is wearing a mix of S2/t4/badge so maybe its worse if your really geared out. (Mind you if you armory me right now I am wearing the crappy shoulders and gloves from the scourge event just for the novelty but normaly have badge and t4 there)

Just dinking around on HH and killing 4 Scourge shadow guys I was doing between 900-1200 DPS using SoC, thats not far from were I was before. I did not try blood becuase I was also healing the bear tank heh.

I plan to run ZA friday. Some of those fights like Bear or ZJ used to seem pretty long on my hunter for pots so maybe they will tax my Ret mana more. *shrugs

JotW is currently returning about half the mana it did before, so yes, that particular one is live. The seals nerf is not, however, and neither is the HoW nerf.