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#1 Oct 14 2008 at 2:43 PM Rating: Default
Here are the 70 and 80 builds im going with if anyone wants a starting point

remember these are just a starting point, if changes are needed feel free to post them :)

70 Ret Pally
Basic ret build i'll be using till wrath

80 Ret Pally
Added Swift Retribution for party/raid haste, 5 in Divine intellect for more mana, and 2 into Unyielding faith for something beneficial to waste the last 2 points on XD
#2 Oct 14 2008 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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No Sanctified Wrath or Art of War? No Imp Ret Aura?

No Seal of Command?!

I just want to bring this up here. You won't need more mana. Judgement, CS, and DS use 23% base mana total on average of every 8 seconds. JotW restores 33% base mana every 8 seconds. This is roughly a 10% gain of base mana every 8 seconds, using the three main DPS abilities.

Consecration uses 22% base mana. You could use Consecration around every 16 seconds (Every other CD) and never actually lose mana.

And this is all before factoring Judgement of Wisdom and any of the Replenishment buffs. You will NEVER run out of mana unless something or someone is specifically draining it from you.

Edited, Oct 14th 2008 7:37pm by Ehcks
#3 Oct 14 2008 at 6:52 PM Rating: Default
well my pally is now 57 and seal of command has been garbage from day 1, even with the slowest, highest damage weapons i can find, seal of righteousness does 2-3x more dps, and ret aura never worked that well when i used it in comparison with sanctity aura, which apparently doesnt exist anymore

these are all based off of pre 3.0, i havent gotten actually gotten to see the changes yet, still waiting for khadgar to stop bugging, gonna take another look at everything though now that i realize sanc aura was removed

Edited, Oct 14th 2008 10:47pm by OMGEverythingIsTaken
#4 Oct 14 2008 at 7:54 PM Rating: Good
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OMGEverythingIsTaken wrote:
well my pally is now 57 and seal of command has been garbage from day 1, even with the slowest, highest damage weapons i can find, seal of righteousness does 2-3x more dps, and ret aura never worked that well when i used it in comparison with sanctity aura, which apparently doesnt exist anymore

these are all based off of pre 3.0, i havent gotten actually gotten to see the changes yet, still waiting for khadgar to stop bugging, gonna take another look at everything though now that i realize sanc aura was removed

Edited, Oct 14th 2008 10:47pm by OMGEverythingIsTaken


I'm curious as to how in the world SoC did less damage than SoR.
1. Seal of Command can crit.
2. It's judgment does more damage normally and did twice the damage on stunned enemies.
3. It is based off weapon damage, not just speed like SoR (which I believe caps out at 2.5 speed).

And no one used Ret Aura (besides Prot pallies) pre-3.0.2. You apparently haven't been paying attention to Beta nor the PTR because Sanctity Aura has been scrapped for the entire time and Ret Aura (specifically the improved-via-talents Ret Aura) is the new best damage aura.
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