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#27 Oct 14 2008 at 9:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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So, gotta buzz on, but this is what I'd do for 65 as a soloing build.

Hope that helps!
#28 Oct 15 2008 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Apparently im the ONLY one staying combat...
(Combat)
2/2 Improved Sinister Strike
5/5 Dual Weild Specialization
2/2 Improved Slice and Dice
3/3 Deflection
5/5 Precision
5/5 Lightning Reflexes
2/2 Weapon Expertise
2/2 Blade Twisting
1/1 Adrenaline Rush
3/3 Vitality
5/5 Combat Potency
2/2 Blood Poisoning
1/1 Surpise Attacks
2/2 Unfair Advantage
5/5 Prey on the Weak
1/1 Killing Spree

(Assasination)
1/5 Malice
3/3 Improved Eviscerate

Am i doing something wrong here? I tried out killing spree yesterday and i thought it was amazing. I took on some mage and i got like 5 800 crits which just blew my mind. Kinda made me think that maybe it would be good for pvp?
But anyways im going to have to look into mut. Check to see what you think of my combat build atm.

Edited, Oct 15th 2008 8:47am by drewbeeone

Edited, Oct 15th 2008 8:48am by drewbeeone

Edited, Oct 15th 2008 8:49am by drewbeeone
#29 Oct 15 2008 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Coming back from a long break, I'm sort of overwhelmed by all the new talents and don't really know what to think.

Planning on going with something that grabs Deadly Brew and Overkill and also Hemo and Prep.

I only have one dagger, or I'd go Mutilate :(

So I might also drop the arena points on a S2 or S3 dagger and do that.
#30 Oct 15 2008 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm confused as all hell with all the new specs, and I'm a spreadsheet-less non-math nerd, so what I've managed to throw together so far is this: [link=http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ef0exoVboIuVo0xZhb[/link]

I want to stick with Combat Swords since I have both S2 swords, no fist weapons, and then Malchazeen and Feltooth Evis for daggers. I know Theo and Therion are going to rip me to pieces, but be gentle. Any criticism would be appreciated.

Edit: Forgot to mention I'll be respeccing to level. This is mostly for some raiding and casual PvP.

Edited, Oct 15th 2008 10:36am by Deathfrance
#31 Oct 15 2008 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
hehe i'm gona prob stay with Shs and def get shadow dance=D
shadow dance looks really cool, and although i'm sure toehr builds are better i'll try this one cause it looks fun=D also with this you could hold up ti a 15-16 sec stun whilst doing crap loads of damage=D in theory at least=/
also could any one link me to a good rogue pvp guide (free) having trouble finding one, thanks
#32 Oct 15 2008 at 2:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Death, you linked a Mutilate build.

Hmmm... I'd suggest this for combat raiding right now. But I really wish Blizz would swap Endurance with Imp Sprint.
#33 Oct 15 2008 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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You're all a bunch of scrubs. I'll be duo-specing combat and mutilate.
#34 Oct 15 2008 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh, well that's weird, I know I linked the right build. Anyway, I went with a bastardized combat build and it's been pretty awesome so far. I got in a PuG for Kara and I'm easily topping the damage meters. A lot of it has to do with the 30% HP reduction, but I feel like I rape the everliving **** out of anything that stands still for more than 3 seconds. I love this patch.
#35 Oct 15 2008 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Free respec is kind of misleading. I wasted my free one and then paid for another one to get it right. I've done this on all of my toons so far.
#36 Oct 15 2008 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogue=00300000000000000000000000000050000000000000000000000005320232130322121050135001051

Been using that tonight and had some good success (only in BG's however). Use 2 swords all the time minus the times that im in stealth and KNOW an ambush will kill, or when i start shadow dancing. Ive dealt quite the burst with a cheap shot, ambush, KS, ambush and an evis if i have too. Have 2 macros that make this pretty easy

Shadow Dance Macro:

/equip <dagger>
/cast Shadow Dance
/cast Ambush

Hemorrhage

/equip <sword>
/cast Hemorrhage

Threw on the Ambush Gylph for 10 yard ambushes. Very decent range have hit hunters multiple times who werent paying attention. Arena Viability? Could be VERY nice if u catch another rogue in a stun lock and he has no trinket, almost guaranteed to drag em down.

Any thoughts on if i just got lucky tonight or if this could be something nice? Any potential pitfalls that you can see? (Inc Theo hazing for using Ambush im sure...but 3k crits for 45 energy ZOMG!)
#37 Oct 15 2008 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
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There is this thing....

Its called resilience.

Can you tell me what it does? If you can...I'll give you a cookie!

If you can tell me why this relates to your idea...I'll give you a chance to change your spec!

Edited, Oct 16th 2008 12:34am by GodOfMoo
#38 Oct 15 2008 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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GodOfMoo wrote:
There is this thing....

Its called resilience.

Can you tell me what it does? If you can...I'll give you a cookie!

If you can tell me why this relates to your idea...I'll give you a chance to change your spec!

Ooohhh! Pick me!

I know this one!
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#39 Oct 15 2008 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Yea yea I know the resilience argument but it does generate 2 combo points per use making it better for that than Hemo and thus far seems to be better damage per energy than a hemo spam.

No math to back it up at the moment (not even sure if it works out), up way later than I should be and may just need to be called a noob, flamed, and respecced.

Although I have dropped a few rogues in S2-S4 combo gear in 1 CS 1 KS using a Dance and 3 ambushes and an evis. Couldnt manage that with hemo spam.

Ahh well im probably just digging myself a n00b grave so ill stop. At the least, ill say its fun to see the big numbers that almost always crit=P
#40 Oct 17 2008 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Death, you linked a Mutilate build.

Hmmm... I'd suggest this for combat raiding right now. But I really wish Blizz would swap Endurance with Imp Sprint.


Just wanted to get a confirmation that this would be ok to lvl with, seeing as how raiding is almost done for the time being. Because i know that some talents arent necessarily good for leveling since you are usually soloing stuff.
But then again, with Shadowdance, im not sure if it even matters :P
#41 Oct 17 2008 at 10:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Drew, I would suggest you drop Lightning Reflexes and grab Combat Potency, like, right now.

Anyway, I'm not sure to which spec you're referring. But the one I linked above is for 70 raiding post 3.0. This is what I'd do for a leveling build at 70 for Northend.

Hope that helps.

*edit: Am I the only one bothered by where Endurance and Imp Sprint are? Pfft!

Edited, Oct 17th 2008 10:58am by TherionSaysWhat
#42 Oct 17 2008 at 10:09 AM Rating: Good
I can't say it's bothered me much.
#43 Oct 17 2008 at 11:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk wrote:
I can't say it's bothered me much.

Ditto. I love the low points in combat now. It's like being a little kid in a candy store.
#44 Oct 17 2008 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Guess I wish they were switched. But it's such a minor thing...
#45 Oct 17 2008 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
Been trying out Mutilate and its damn awesome, and im only using merc shanker/malchezeen, i plan on picking up vengeful daggers next week and that should furthur increase my damage :)
#46 Oct 24 2008 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Drew, I would suggest you drop Lightning Reflexes and grab Combat Potency, like, right now.

Anyway, I'm not sure to which spec you're referring. But the one I linked above is for 70 raiding post 3.0. This is what I'd do for a leveling build at 70 for Northend.

Hope that helps.


haha i could have sworn i did that...oh well respec ftw
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