Is there any class shaman masters?Follow

Nope.

As stated already, no. We're the absolute bottom of the barrel for PvP situations, especially in 1v1 combat. We have some "nitch" abilities that "can" be helpful against some classes situationally, namely Purge. But overall other classes just have better counters or are just outclass us in the abilities of what we "can" do.

Our formula for success (if you can really call it that), is just hope that your target is severly undergeared to you, or brain dead in the mechanics of the class they are playing. If/When these things fall into place, then you got a equal chance of winning :) Enjoy!



Do you mean your a "master" at playing a shaman? In which case, thats equal to saying, "I like playing Dan from Street fighter!"...which means you play shaman well, but still gets beat on by everyone!

Or do you mean your a master of beating shaman's, which is the same as saying, "I'm really good at punching 9month olds in the face"!

I'm kinda lost in your translation, which do you mean? :)

Enhc shamans "master" warriors (at least in TBC, i do not know about WOTLK). Also, good shamans can usually beat mages.

Pre-3.0 I would definitely agree with all of that. I'm not necessarily saying it's not true in 3.0.2 either, but I was watching duels outside Ironforge for as long as I could last night, and I'm willing to let the balance issue simmer for a bit while the new specs redefine the pecking order.

I watched a 2000+ (In 3v3 at least, her 2v2 was 1600. Tells you something, doesn't it?) Enhancer in full S4 pretty closely. She got one match on an S3 Frost Mage, but I think that was just because she caught him off guard with the new talents, Feral Spirit in particular. (Those Spirit Wolves are way too durable by the way. Our opponents should be able to kill them if need be.) They dueled again later and once he knew what to expect, he beat her pretty handily. Various specs of Rogues also ate her face without much trouble.

I didn't get to see her fight anything else, nor did I see any Elemental Shaman looking for duels, but like I said, I am willing to open the matter up for at least the next month.

Well, that's kind of my point. I don't think Water Elementals should be that durable either. Hunter and Warlock pets need to be durable because they're such an integral part of the classes at the most basic level, but for temporary pets that facilitate burndowns... I mean, if you can't kill them, what can you do? You can't even (for example) Frost Nova the Feral Spirits because of Spirit Walk.

During the second duel with the Mage, the Mage had barely been touched by the Enhancer for the entire fight, and by virtue of Feral Spirits alone the Enhancer came back and almost won. Maybe it's just personal opinion at this point, but I don't like to see a spec's entire virtue hinge on single POW button in PvP.

I love how all the shaman players rag on shaman so much, I love shaman and will remain faithful no matter what blizzard does to them.

I know as elemental I just about **** on mages (Grounding totem, earth shock/wind shock, frost/fire resist) Also with eye of the storm i just about pwn most hunters.

Now as enhance, and with the new talents, I **** on just about everyone who's gear level is similar to mine, except Mut rogues (who need some serious nerfing).

Feral Spirit has to be just about the best thing thats happened to shaman in a long time, after an hour dueling people outside org i had just about every person asking for re-matches, without me using feral spirit.

I run an elemental shaman. I have an S2 shield, S2 totem, and a couple other epic pvp/tradeskill items. everything else is blue including 4/5 seer's set. I have about 10k health/mana/armor. I have about +650-700 spellpwr and about 25% spell crit rating. Maybe I am just running up against players with lesser gear/talent then myself, which is very possible since most of my pvp comes in BG's or world pvp on my pvp server, although my gear is by no means great... I don't see the trouble with shamans in 1 on 1 pvp. I have 10 points into enhancement mainly for the 2 point improved ghostwolf. Frost shock/ghostwolf works pretty well to get me the separation I need for a chain lightening or a lesser heal if needed. Manageing my totems depending on the class I'm facing.. poison cleasing totem for rogues, grounding totem/earth shock for casters, purge for druids, grounding toetem/tremor totem for locks, seems to work pretty well. Basically I hit and run, hit and run... chain lightening, frost shock, ghost wolf, run... heal.. spam the no mana cost water shield... For hunters I use my Ghostwolf/frost shock to stay in melee range... I don't know the math of it, and possibly someone can show me a formula to prove my tactics wrong, but given the same armor as my opponent I'm confident I could make it a match with any class.

ROFLMAO. Classic! If that example doesn't set you straight. grab your pamper, your helmet, and your red pail and get to the curb before you miss that (little, yellow) bus!

Mozared, for once it looks like we're in complete agreement.