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#1 Oct 08 2008 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbkhGtrzsVMkZfxtocMRb

finally got my build close to finished

tried out GS, it was fun but not all that great
tried out penance, if i could cast on myself id love it....

so i think i might settle on something like this

stack crit, instant flash heals, divine aegis procs, and improve prayer of healing (with the glyph) should give me some decent aoe heal

is it great? nah

but i like it.... still not sure on a few points though (like 2/3 aegis and 1/2 grace.. might switch that to 3/3 and 0/2 or something)

i like improving the areas im into, while not being based on cooldowns.... and im into 5mans and such then raiding... so CoH mileage isnt that great to me
#2 Oct 08 2008 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I can see where your going. I'd swap those 2 points in Healing Prayers to fill up Blessed Recovery; you don't need -20% healing on your least used heal. The reason I don't like your build is because it's spread too thin; you seem to want a little bit of everything and end up putting half points into a bunch of talents. Though that isn't neccissarily bad, I like it a bit more compact myself. I'm probably going for this holy build. Used to like disc, but I've decided to keep my priest mainly for PvE and holy is a more reliable and fun way to play that. Plus, Penance is kind of a "meh, sounds fun" talent whereas Guardian Spirit really is a wipesaver that plainly kicks ***.

Once dual specs are out though, I'll definitely make myself some kind of disc PvP spec.
#3 Oct 08 2008 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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i actually use PoH a good amount in live, plus -mana cost on PoM isnt bad either (no CoH means its either PoH or nova for aoe healing... shudder, no nova plz)

might swap that BR point into holy reach, it was kinda a 1 point of "who cares where it goes, i need 20 in holy"

im doing both pve and pvp on my priest for sure, and pvp is gonna be a lil more promient then pve... so pain suppression was a good thing for me to have (and i love the idea of aegis, @#%^ing sweet)

i was full holy (pvp based but same numbers as you build, just imp mana burn and all the holy pvp talents) and it was fun

but it doesnt handle being twin dps'd too well, i liked it for 2v2 where it was heal/dps vs heal/dps... but GS isnt as good in pvp as youd think

smart people just cc for 10 seconds and ruin your sh*t for tryin to be clever with GS

if i was more pve focused, id be full holy though :D

being a hybrid is harder in practice then on paper -_- and id rather have instant flash heals and stack crit HARD, then penance

divine aegis procs on tank, i can toss that free flash to a dps who lost some hp, or wait a bit, throw it on the tank, and get outside FSR for free

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i think its just my goal of how crit stacking synergies like crazy divine aegis/surge of light..... and i can see the flaws with it a mile away, its fun and my ultra serious wow attitude has definately died down

thats why my rogue isnt my main anymore, and i plan on being builds i like more then builds that are the best

if you guys can think of a better pvp-focused divine aegis/surge of light build.... id love to take a suggestion :D

Edited, Oct 8th 2008 2:42pm by mongoosexcore
#4 Oct 08 2008 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
i think this will be my build

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZfxxcc0qVuVIst
#5 Oct 08 2008 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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i actually use PoH a good amount in live, plus -mana cost on PoM isnt bad either (no CoH means its either PoH or nova for aoe healing... shudder, no nova plz)

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divine aegis procs on tank, i can toss that free flash to a dps who lost some hp, or wait a bit, throw it on the tank, and get outside FSR for free


Right you are indeed. I actually used to have something somewhat similar... This would probably have been my disc-healer/holy tidbid hybrid spec in 3.0 if I hadn't decided to go full holy.

And I don't mind about PvP too much... I realize holy PvP probably won't get me any further than BG's. That's ok, I've got my rogue for PvP. Incidently, I absolutely hate raiding with him anyway, so it works out.

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thats why my rogue isnt my main anymore, and i plan on being builds i like more then builds that are the best


Sounds like a good choice. I couldn't decide and just went with 2 mains =P


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i think this will be my build

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=bV...xcc0qVuVIst


That's most suited as a main tank healer I'd say. I would call it "one of the possible cookie cutters"; but that's the fun thing with priests; you could make like 30 different 'cookie cutter' builds, all slightly adepted for a specific kind of healing. Yours seems to have some nice crit and pure and raw healing power, I guess. You could flip it over to this as well if you're bringing a pall with the improved buff. That probably gives you the biggest heals attainable by priests.
#6 Oct 08 2008 at 11:59 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm, that deep holy build looks tempting. My personal picks would be one of these

Deep disc raid tank healing (revised - since IDS doesn't stack with flametongue totem its not worth taking, better to have 2 points in focussed power)
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=053320003050510250100503020023405003030014010000000000000000000000000000000000000


Raid heal specialist holy build (can spec out of spirit if you have a disc priest ofc)
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?priest=052320003050010000000000000023205003230115053005301330000000000000000000000000000

Edited, Oct 10th 2008 6:39am by thegreatmothra
#7 Oct 09 2008 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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I'll continue as a holy priest, but won't decide on a raiding build till its time to raid.

One thing I notice in some of these builds is that Holy Concentration is included while Surge of Light is not, I was thinking that if I had to choose between the two I'd go with SoL. I like the idea of SoL as it procs of any spell - stuff like circle of healing and prayer of mending, and that it procs off damage spells is an added bonus. Suppose the idea with improved holy concentration is if we use holy concentration to get outside the 5 second rule, then are able to cast 2 faster heals - but still, not as fast as SoL's free instant flash heal. Perhaps I'm missing something...
#8 Oct 09 2008 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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i like SoL better then holy conc myself... but id take holy conc if it was in the same spot in the tree most likely

instant flash heal with no chance to crit is weaker, and cant chain proc holy conc

the spell haste is better for main tank healing anyway, free instant flash (and div aegis on tank which is the mechanic ill be raping :) ) is better suited to healing a secondary target (a dps)

or pvp usage (free instant heal, stay on the move, or instant smite if you need that wee bit of extra damage)

instant flashs seem like a better choice if your gonna go a build without CoH.... its much better fitted to heal extra targets then extra spell haste

thats my take on it anyway
#9 Oct 09 2008 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
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To be honest I conjured up a whole post as to why having both was better earlier today, and then closed the browser rather than posting it when I found myself countering all my own arguments.

Two very solid ones still stand, though;

-In my spec, removing Holy Conc + Imp Holy Conc would mean I could fill up Spiritual Guidance and put 3 points into Mental Agility. If you ask me, that's not really worth it.

-Serendipity. I'm going to assume this works with free casts. Seeing as both SoL and Holy Conc give me free casts, both their procs basically mean I can overheal whenever they go off; either I get a quick (or instant) heal off on the target and heal him up a bit, or I get a quick (or instant) heal off on the target that'll do major overhealing; which would result in me getting free mana.
#10 Oct 09 2008 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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(from my understanding, not my proven testings or nothing)

i doubt free heal via holy conc would do anything with serendpity

inner focus, you use it, actively removes the mana cost part of the spell until you can one

aka mana cost 0

so inner focus + big bad gheal = overheal.... but whatever percent of 0 mana = 0 returned

thats how id see it working... and i think holy conc woudl work just like inner focus

i think theres threads on the beta forums in regards to that, so id look into it if your looking for synergy there

Edited, Oct 9th 2008 10:40pm by mongoosexcore

Edited, Oct 9th 2008 10:40pm by mongoosexcore
#11 Oct 10 2008 at 2:51 AM Rating: Decent
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If they 'fix' that, they should also 'fix' it so that Imp Holy Conc doesn't overwrite Surge of Light. Which would mean there's a fair chance that you get a free instant heal followed by a free fast heal.
#12 Oct 10 2008 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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what they should do

make holy conc affect: gheal, binding heal, renew
make surge of light affect: smite, flash heal, CoH.... and tone down effect chance to 20/40% (from 25/50)

then both are more desireable, and they dont overwrite ^_^ wouldnt be that overpowered, and it would help a lot into making full holy wanna gear crit

Edited, Oct 10th 2008 10:34am by mongoosexcore
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