Ok i just hit 70 as ret. Now i want to tank since no one likes ret in grp stuff i couldent pick up any prot gear. Is thier a way to tank in s2 armor cus that would be easy to get then trying to back track all the gear drop..if so wich set od S2 would i pick up to tank non heroic stuff to start gearing up prot.
Edited, Oct 5th 2008 9:35pm by cantgetonmylevl
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As many people will tell you, checking the tanking stickie would be a good place to start to answer any tanking questions. Now as far as tanking in PVP gear, probably wouldn't be the best idea since you lose out on a lot of much needed stats tht you only get on tanking gear. Plus it really doesn't take that long to get the majority of the gear mentioned on the stickie, so just suck it up and start working on it. Other option would be to just pvp as ret and get some better gear thereby making you more useable in PVE. Or just hang out for a little over a month and wait for the expansion to come out; I'm guessing there will be a lot more ret love when it comes out
yeah, definitely wouldn't recommend tanking in any kind of pvp gear. and if you're gonna get the s2 gear, you might as well get the ret gear (scaled). ret can get in groups even now, and in just over a week with the new talents ret will be much more desireable for raiding. just stick it out.
tool, wish I was on your server =/ If you don't have CC on mine, you ain't goin on no group run :(
And for the OP, I'd never let someone in PvP gear tank for me. Sorry, but grabbing "of the Champion" greens off the AH is a better way to go imo if you really want to tank that bad.
And for the OP, I'd never let someone in PvP gear tank for me. Sorry, but grabbing "of the Champion" greens off the AH is a better way to go imo if you really want to tank that bad.
If you don't have any tanking gear then you will fail at tanking really.
A viable way of getting tanking gear can be to PVP to get the healing mace and maybe one or 2 of the healing bits, select healing gear from any outstanding quests that offer healing gear and maybe buy some AH healing stuff.
Then go and heal some instances and try and pick up tanking gear. If you roll with a drood tank then there are no issues with you having the plate tanking gear, if its a warrios or pally tanking check to see if they are happy with you rolling on tanking gear (they should be) and you can get a reasonable tanking set in a short time.
If you aren't up for that wait for the xpac as tanking changes but even so getting a tanking set should still be worthwhile.
A viable way of getting tanking gear can be to PVP to get the healing mace and maybe one or 2 of the healing bits, select healing gear from any outstanding quests that offer healing gear and maybe buy some AH healing stuff.
Then go and heal some instances and try and pick up tanking gear. If you roll with a drood tank then there are no issues with you having the plate tanking gear, if its a warrios or pally tanking check to see if they are happy with you rolling on tanking gear (they should be) and you can get a reasonable tanking set in a short time.
If you aren't up for that wait for the xpac as tanking changes but even so getting a tanking set should still be worthwhile.
Despite what the previous posters have said, tanking 5 mans in pvp gear is fine. I have seen it done many, many times quite successfully. I have been grouped with fury warriors using a 2hander to tank in reg 5 mans with pvp gear and have absolutely no issues.
There are no crushing blows in 5 mans, heroic or regular. It is easier to get uncrittable in pvp gear than pve gear. I think you only need 197 resil to be uncrittable in pve. Plus you will have tons of stam with the pvp gear.
If you were talking about tanking raid instances, then people would be justified in telling you to go suck a lemon with pvp gear, but for 5 mans, it is no problem at all.
There are no crushing blows in 5 mans, heroic or regular. It is easier to get uncrittable in pvp gear than pve gear. I think you only need 197 resil to be uncrittable in pve. Plus you will have tons of stam with the pvp gear.
If you were talking about tanking raid instances, then people would be justified in telling you to go suck a lemon with pvp gear, but for 5 mans, it is no problem at all.
uze's right, is it "possible". Regardless, I still wouldn't trust someone to tank for me in PvP gear unless it was full Vengeful or something like that (overgeared for the run). When I see a tank wearing PvP gear I automatically think, "This noob has NO clue wtf he's doing with his gear," and that's that. If I know the person and they know their stuff, that's a different story, but people I don't know, this is the first thing that comes to mind.
As the sticky states, you can buy the Felsteel Helm, Leggings, and Gauntlets off of the AH for fairly cheap at anytime on most servers. Other than that for basic 5-man tanking see what you can find on the AH that is "of the Championn" for Stam and Defensive stats. The Felsteels plus a bunch of green "of the Champion" stuff should at least get you to 490 def and able to tank 5-mans/heroics at which point you will start getting better gear through drops, etc.
The sticky also does a great job of telling you which quests to do to get Prot Paladin Tank gear, so if you haven't already done those quests, now is the time to go ahead and do them.
Edit: If you want to get to 490 Def as fast as possible, use some + DEF gems in appropriate slots in the Felsteel Gear. Won't give you as much stamina as you could have, but will give you enough stam and enough def for basically any regular 5-man as long as your healer and your dps are decent and competent. Then you can do the 5-mans that will give you even better gear and re-gem the Felsteels for stam once your defense is high enough without the + DEF gems.
Edited, Oct 6th 2008 11:35am by jeromesimina
The sticky also does a great job of telling you which quests to do to get Prot Paladin Tank gear, so if you haven't already done those quests, now is the time to go ahead and do them.
Edit: If you want to get to 490 Def as fast as possible, use some + DEF gems in appropriate slots in the Felsteel Gear. Won't give you as much stamina as you could have, but will give you enough stam and enough def for basically any regular 5-man as long as your healer and your dps are decent and competent. Then you can do the 5-mans that will give you even better gear and re-gem the Felsteels for stam once your defense is high enough without the + DEF gems.
Edited, Oct 6th 2008 11:35am by jeromesimina
Maulgak wrote:
tool, wish I was on your server =/ If you don't have CC on mine, you ain't goin on no group run :(
And for the OP, I'd never let someone in PvP gear tank for me. Sorry, but grabbing "of the Champion" greens off the AH is a better way to go imo if you really want to tank that bad.
And for the OP, I'd never let someone in PvP gear tank for me. Sorry, but grabbing "of the Champion" greens off the AH is a better way to go imo if you really want to tank that bad.
lol, you should come on over :) alliance side on Kael'thas... be awesome to have you.
and to the OP, maulgak is right, the geen "of the champion" gear + the Felsteel set like somene else said is better imo for tanking.
do you really want to tank though, or is that something you feel pressured into? if you get a few peices of S2 scaled gear, ret can definitelly get in some runs. unless you just want to provide that flexibility to your guild, which is good too.
Maulgak wrote:
tool, wish I was on your server =/ If you don't have CC on mine, you ain't goin on no group run :(
Whut? Only warrior and druid tanks on your server? As a tankading, I rarely use CC (MgT and SLabs being the exceptions) in 5-man content. And not much CC in ZA either. Kara I solo tank, except Netherspite.
Maulgak wrote:
And for the OP, I'd never let someone in PvP gear tank for me. Sorry, but grabbing "of the Champion" greens off the AH is a better way to go imo if you really want to tank that bad.
You could also respec holy for a bit, heal some instances while picking up prot gear. Warrior gear will be useful from next wednesday, so grab what you can :)
Cheers :)
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tool, wish I was on your server =/ If you don't have CC on mine, you ain't goin on no group run :(
Back on topic ... I'd say wait til 3.0 then you can decide wether to respecc. Also going holy and grouping with Druid tanks could be a good way of getting a prot set. Just a few runs til you get some items then buy whatever off the AH (Felsteels and the such), and some faction rewards to boot if you do Zangamarsh / CoT runs.
Yea, I get that Palys don't need CC =P If you haven't noticed, my main is a Prot Paly, hehe.
Not everyone shares this view though. There's various Prot Palys on my server that still mainly look for Mages/Rogues/Hunter so they can have CC. I don't know why, maybe they're just scared :P, but sadly that's how it is on Bloodhoof :(
Not everyone shares this view though. There's various Prot Palys on my server that still mainly look for Mages/Rogues/Hunter so they can have CC. I don't know why, maybe they're just scared :P, but sadly that's how it is on Bloodhoof :(
There really is no reason at all to use PvP gear for tanking, other than the gavel. The Felsteel set is readily available on the AH or if you know a blacksmith, Aldor rep will give you a nice chestpiece, the Arcatraz key chain gives you a very nice belt, the Slabs quest chain gives the bracers, and a SV quest chain gives you a perfectly good helm. With all this stuff readily available with like a week's work involved, I really cannot see why anyone would bother grinding out the honour for a full set of PvP gear just to tank in it. The instant you hit 490 defence and 12k health, you jump into a guild kara run and start picking up purples. Virtually every boss there drops at least one piece of tanking plate.
The only piece which is difficult to fill is the shoulders; there's a quest in Netherstorm that gives some decent green ones, but if your guild has a strong no-greens policy then the shoulders off Laj in Botanica lasted me literally into my first T5 run.
It's good to be cautious. Especially if your healer isn't so flash.
The only piece which is difficult to fill is the shoulders; there's a quest in Netherstorm that gives some decent green ones, but if your guild has a strong no-greens policy then the shoulders off Laj in Botanica lasted me literally into my first T5 run.
Maulgak wrote:
Not everyone shares this view though. There's various Prot Palys on my server that still mainly look for Mages/Rogues/Hunter so they can have CC. I don't know why, maybe they're just scared :P, but sadly that's how it is on Bloodhoof :(
It's good to be cautious. Especially if your healer isn't so flash.
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