Expansion buildsFollow

I have been looking around and have seen a lot of interesting builds, on here, but most of them have been speculative.

Has anyone managed to find "tried and tested" builds, from beta testers or people who have been on the Public Test Realms (for the new patch)?

It would be nice to see what has proved successful.

With the various Beast Master options, that being my current build, I would like to see some of those.

BigRedKitty is an obvious player of that build, but I cannot see his expansion talents anywhere.

Otherwise, anything off the folks from elitistjerks would be great. They seem to be theorycrafting (as they do), without anyone posting "reliable" builds.

I can spend ages on their site, provided it's the first site I come to. On this search, for builds, it was one of the last and my brain had already been baked.

We can't truly know what will work, until the patch goes live, but some good builds must be up.

BM 51/15/5 Looks good to me.
Possibly switching 1-3 points from Imp. Tracking to Focused Aim depending on your +hit.

SV 0/20/51 might be pretty neat too with Hunting party and the whole interaction with serpent sting.

MM 0/53/18 Is what I'd do with marks, I just dont think they'll be able to keep up mana wise and thus ruining their dps through AotV.

I cant see much possible hybrids, although maybe a build with 31 in marks for TSA and the rest in SV is an option.
Although I doubt that AP will be better than the mana return from hunting party with the changes to consumables.

I am looking at this for BM if they do not change anything. http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMzgxRVuMtst0eVoR

Not necessarily. As a BM hunter, I have 32% unbuffed crit rating, and anywhere between 33 and 39% during a raid depending on whether I have a feral druid. This number will go up after the patch because of many party-wide buffs becoming raid-wide. I was watching my pet's focus on the PTR with both 1 and 2 points into GFTT and unbuffed crit rating. With 1 point, my cat was rarely starved for focus. She stayed between 20% and 50% focus for the most part. When I had 2points into it, she had a pretty big surplus, and would only dip below 50% focus if I was unlucky with crits.

You also have to keep in mind that the mechanics behind focus regen have changed. Instead of regening 25 every 4 seconds, it will regenerate .6 focus every .1 second, so you don't have to wait that extra 3 seconds to use a special skill if you're 1-2 focus points away from using it.

So it is probably a good idea to take both points into GFTT if you have a lower crit rating. But once you start getting upwards of 35%, it may be acceptable to only take 1 point.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztxRwuMxsZ0eVb Will be my DPS build at level 70. This build has netted over 1400 DPS against the dummies in org. And over 2200 fully raid buffed. By far the most I and 2 other good hunters i have met have discovered. Once it comes time to level i will be changing some things around, but for high damage output, this is the best i have seen.


ps. get a cat.

Im glad i went out and tamed a ghost saber recently .

This http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztxRwuMxsZ0eVb

Get a Cat for DPS and a Gorilla for ginding.



Did you not read my effin post? here it is again.

@ rinkkel, ****** Superhero

"Get a Cat for DPS"

So the cats will rise above serpents, as far as dps goes? No worries there. I'll unstable mine. Where did you put the talent points, for your cat?


@ ProjectMidnight

"You must not understand what the PTR is and what the point of it is."

It's precisely because I do understand that I made the request. It would be nice to know who has the experience of possible conditions in the upcoming patch and who has not.

Thanks anyway.

If you have any lv 80 build ideas, as you seem to be quite considerate of numbers, it would be good to see them.

As for the pets, i keep forgetting to try a wasp. However, cats are really sick in terms of dps numbers now. Which is why for my level 70 raid dps build i went for maxing pet focus. http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztxRwu0eRZ0eVb i think i swapped a few things around from the first build i linked. This will be my raiding build until the actual xpac comes out. Myself and 2 other hunters have gotten together for a few hours and tested builds, this one did the most sustained dps.

My raid pet will be a cat, with this build http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?petcalc=0md00fz0c0z

I am intrigued about a wasp now though. And having one on a raid may be a very beneficial addition. I will have to check that out.

Once wrath goes live i will be leveling with this (or a slight variation) http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbrzgxRmuMeot0ez and a gorilla with this http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?petcalc=0hdGhbM00z The extra pet points from the 51 BM talent are very nice for a level grind. I do not plan on doing too much in the way of instancing with my hunter. I just want to get to 80. So i am not to concerned about taking a hit in my dps.

Because during those four weeks, we'll still need speccs. Four weeks means a minimum of four Black Temple runs. It means grinding and farming. It means getting a feel for the new talents, for those who aren't doing PTR or Beta.

ProjectMidnight
rinkkel, ****** Superhero

Both of those posts were laden with WoW goodness and so had to be uprated.

I ought to add that I like to do a lot of solo and so am looking at cranking my solo dps as high as possible, raid viability an afterthought only.


ProjectMidnight

"I use a level 70 cat with this build"
"a Rabid build would likely yield higher solo'ing DPS"

Solo DPS is my primary aim, but I am not a math head.

I was about to ask why the rabid build would yield more dps (feel free to tell, anyway) and then I noticed that Call of the Wild, otherwise uber, has a 5 minute cool-down. That must be what gimps it, as far as personal dps goes. So... a rabid cat looks like the best route *shiver*.

In both of those links, I see "Required level: 68" and "Points left: 3". Looking down, I noticed the same with rinkkel's pet build (I must be missing something). Is that an error in the link? Otherwise, where would the points go? "Bloodthirsty" and "Heart of the Phoenix" don't look too shabby.

"I just test higher with 1 point into GFtT because I have a really high crit rating (31.7% unbuffed)"
I am the same, mine being 33% (though it would lower a bit, if/when I lean back toward +hit), so I'll probably look at that 50/11 for starters.

I guess the next consideration is points progression. Will Improved Tracking, which does look amazing, be important at the start or will we need our MM talents boosted first?

"Are you asking about Wind Serpents?"
Yes, I did mean Wind Serpents. I have just started looking at Petopia again and see what you mean. Shame. Still, I always preferred having a kitty.

"Wasps could also be a good choice for raiding pets"
Their stuff not stacking (as you mentioned) could be what counts out the wasps, from a lot of non-solo action. I do pug/instance a fair bit, so might have to keep cat.



rinkkel, ****** Superhero

"Which is why for my level 70 raid dps build i went for maxing pet focus"
I looked at Midnight's 50/11/0 build and I like it, but itch that I wouldn't start with my 15 MM points - which are in yours. You have oriented yours for raiding, rather than personal, results - right?

Which did you find produced the most personal dps?

The only target dummies I know are those in Theramore, unless someone makes one. I have never used dummies to test, but I'd like to try a few. Are there other, more convenient (ie major city) locations?

"My raid pet will be a cat, with this build"
I am guessing that you'd have that for raiding. Would you also go for a rabid, if you were looking for personal numbers?


Thanks, both, again. Those were two of the most informative posts, I have read in a while.

Oh, that's because pets only get a new talent point every 4 levels. If you add another point, it'll say "Required level: 72, 76, 80." You can also give yourself the 4 extra points if you decide to take Beast Mastery.

I think some time between level 70 and 80, I'll take Beast Mastery, and my final build for a cat (or whatever high-DPS exotic I choose) might look something like this. But I think I would just have to feel that one out. At 80, it's possible to get both Rabid and Call of the Wild without the extra points. The 4 extra for me would go into Heart of the Phoenix, Stamina and maybe some Resistances, and none of those increase DPS (unless you count the 4-6 seconds it takes to res a pet mid-fight).

Edited, Oct 6th 2008 6:15pm by ProjectMidnight