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#1 Oct 03 2008 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
Can shaman tank after level 50?

If so what build should they be.
#2 Oct 03 2008 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
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Not well. At level 66 you get the earth elemental, which is a handy tank with a 2 minute life and a 20 minute cooldown.

If you WERE going to tank, I'm thinking you'd want to be resto and spam heal yourself. Use a shield. It won't work well, but if you outlevel the instance it might be doable.
#3 Oct 03 2008 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
My guild leader tanked regular SV on his enhance shammy. He went mace and board and used frost shock/chain lightning alot. Two of us just needed the CE rep for the mount and we all seriously out geared the place.

Short answer is yes, it can be done with everyone outgearing the place and watching their aggro (since we do not have any type of taunts).
#4 Oct 06 2008 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldnt ever EVER ever say that a shaman can tank, we have no taunt ability other than our earth elemental which on a 10 min cd - it wouldnt work.

To be fair, anyone can take on an instance if you go in at a much higher level, but I wouldnt recommend it if you are trying to level a shaman tank, its just not a good idea.

Plus shaman cant really get tanking gear - I mean we can get a nice shield/mace setup, but our gear is strictly limited to non-defensive gear. It wouldnt work out well.

Really no one other than plate wearers or well armored druid should be able to tank at this point in the game.
#5 Oct 06 2008 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wouldnt ever EVER ever say that a shaman can tank


LIES! Shaman can tank. Now whether or not they live and they keep the group alive is another story.
#6 Oct 06 2008 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
no no no... a thousand times no.
#7 Oct 21 2008 at 6:22 AM Rating: Good
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Yes and no
In heroics (before we out geared them)for runs with no cc I would OT a caster on the trash pulls between grounding totem and earth shock your average caster is a chump. Tanking a malee mob is a different story doable but pvp gear recomended. Or frost shock kite tank it for example in hero UB the 2 bog lord pull (before the tank/healer could handle tanking both) Tank tank 1 you kite the other.

Tanking a regular instance is doable (not recomended) once again resilance is key. I actually ran MgT normal with a warlock tank for the hell of it no issues.

But if you still building your toon and the group doesn't outgear the instance it's Going to be a long day.

Edit
Been awhile since I played the shammy im an instance? DID they nerf resilance in PVE?? Read that it was going to happen but havent tested it.

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 10:18am by shammytank
#8 Oct 21 2008 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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You can get shammy tanking gear it is just very rare. ...of the champion gear you can get you DEF well above 490 (assumeing this would be uncritable) This would take alot of time and luck the greens are easy to come by but for blues you would need to farm the rares, I doubt someone would AH a blue mail of the champion worth more as a shard, and "hope" for the right drop also animal boss in kara has the chance to drop an epic of the champion. So yeah you could do it. Personally I wouldn't but have seen people do some pretty "amazing" things with their toons.

EDIT actually thinking about this Between Gear you can get Mace or axe, shield, cloak, trinkets and rings. Plus enchants and gems, and the other gear listed above you really could tank OK Maybe ill try it out at 80 don't have the time to spend on it right now.

Enhance would be the ideal build use CL to pull and on every CD plus frost shock every CD

Edited, Oct 21st 2008 10:00pm by shammytank
#9 Oct 27 2008 at 10:13 AM Rating: Decent
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darmaster wrote:
Can shaman tank after level 50?

If so what build should they be.


The answer lies behind the reason you're asking.

If you're asking because you want to play the tanking role in groups then the answer is no. You'd be much better off playing a druid, paladin, warrior or soon to be deathknight.

If you're asking because you need to temporary fill the tanking role in a group or encounter then the answer is sort of. Yes you can tank in certain situations.


The biggest problem is the shaman class just lacks tanking abilities and gear. They were designed to be dps or healers.

Tanks need to be able to do two things in order to play the role of a tank; 1. take a lot of damage 2. hold agro
#10 Oct 27 2008 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote-MentalFrog]Tanks need to be able to do two things in order to play the role of a tank; 1. take a lot of damage 2. hold agro[/quote]

That's pretty much the sum of it. A dual wield shammy can do fine at holding the aggro but utterly fails when it comes to taking a lot of damage. Unless you vastly outgear the instance (and your healer does too) it is simply never going to work.
#11 Nov 11 2008 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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That's pretty much the sum of it. A dual wield shammy can do fine at holding the aggro but utterly fails when it comes to taking a lot of damage. Unless you vastly outgear the instance (and your healer does too) it is simply never going to work.


So true. Take it from a 70 shammy who loves to dps... spec healing. You will be more useful and people will actually want to run with you. A shaman is just not equipped to tank.
#12 Nov 11 2008 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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I've found that I can tank one target, but tanking anything more than that is just no going to happen. So, in theory, I'd say Shamans can make ok offtanks, but as far as being a constant main tank, not so much. We don't have any mechanics to take back aggro when we lose it, first of all. Second of all, we only wear mail, which makes us quite a bit squishier than other tanks.

I haven't been playing shaman that long, but I could swear there was a time when they were pretty decent tanks, albeit not as good as others. When did they get changed to being only DPS or Healer (Serious question)?
#13 Nov 12 2008 at 7:04 AM Rating: Decent
I realize shaman can't tank except for very special circumstance that only for short periods. I like to thank all who reply it real did help me with this question.
#14 Nov 12 2008 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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In shadowmoon valley on one of the elite quests (Uvuros) there was a shammy who said he could tank it as the paladin was delayed finishing up some netherwing quests. Ok, I can heal. 2 deaths (with me OOM both times trying to heal him) later the paladin came by and we finished it easily with plenty of mana and no trouble.

Shammies can not tank mobs of similar level. No aggro. No avoidance. Not nearly enough armor.

Don't tank as a shammy unless you are very seriously overgeared.
#15 Nov 12 2008 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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It depends heavily on the content you're on about. Technically, every class can tank... There's even priest tanks out there. That's not to say a class like Shaman or Priest makes a reliable and efficient MT for even level 70 five-mans, though.
#16 Nov 12 2008 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
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There's even priest tanks out there


You always make me giggle. There was actually "Once up on a time" that shamans did tank pre-TBC and off-tank when needed simply because enhancement always could ride the threat of a tank close. Let's say the tank dies, Macro-swap to a shield, Frost Shock, and you just saved a mage.

An enhancement shaman could actually spec into some "tanking" talents (unlike a mage) and they can wear a shield and have threat generation from windfury and Frost Shock. Single target tanking, they could probably do ok through the 50's and could do ok through normal dungeons to 70 if they outgear the place. I don't think it would be possible to tank heroics though and raid bosses would just splat/**** all over an enhancement shaman.
#17 Nov 13 2008 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I used to have a pall who was obsessed with becoming a shaman tank in WOTLK. Then they removed shield spec. In the end, it's all what you're after. I'll stick to this; for ordinary high-end content (level 70 [now 80] 5-mans, heroics and raids) and in an ordinary situation, shamans can't be reliable tanks. Nothing's really impossible, though.
#18 Nov 17 2008 at 6:02 PM Rating: Good
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Jiade wrote:
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There's even priest tanks out there


You always make me giggle.


Though not a raid tank, shadow priests could tank instances at level 60 in vanilla WoW when wearing full Ironweave.
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