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#1 Oct 01 2008 at 4:49 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm slowly pushing my frost mage towards 70 (leveled to the 50's as fire) and I need some advice. I don't get a ton of play time, so I probably won't have a lot of time at level 70 before WotLK comes out, if I make it at all. One of the main reasons I switched to frost was that I ran into trouble in searing gorge and burning steppes as a fire mage. Most of the mobs were fire resistent, if not immue (plus I wanted to try out AoE grinding). This leads me to my questions:

1. Northrend sounds cold. Does anyone know if the mobs there will be frost resistant or immune? Will being frost specced hamper my early efforts into levels 71 and beyond?

2. I am a tailor, but haven't chosen my specialization yet. Is there any WotLK reason to pick one tailoring specialty over another? By that I mean, if I go frozen shadowweave tailoring, is the end of the line for that spec the FSW set? I am assuming that by level 73/74 the FSW set will be junk compared to quest rewards, so if there is no other reason to keep FSW tailoring, should I just abandon tailoring all together?? My other profession is alchemy, so I could pick up herbalism to help that out a little bit. I do have another 375 tailor, so if I did stay with tailoring, I could make which ever specialty set pretty easily. Is there anything worth keeping tailoring for? Since I don't have time to raid, pvp, regular instances and the occasional heroic would probably be the cap for my gear. Is the level 80 BoP tailoring gear worth keeping tailoring for?

Thanks all
#2 Oct 01 2008 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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Friarduck wrote:
I'm slowly pushing my frost mage towards 70 (leveled to the 50's as fire) and I need some advice. I don't get a ton of play time, so I probably won't have a lot of time at level 70 before WotLK comes out, if I make it at all. One of the main reasons I switched to frost was that I ran into trouble in searing gorge and burning steppes as a fire mage. Most of the mobs were fire resistent, if not immue (plus I wanted to try out AoE grinding). This leads me to my questions:

1. Northrend sounds cold. Does anyone know if the mobs there will be frost resistant or immune? Will being frost specced hamper my early efforts into levels 71 and beyond?


I doubt it will be prevalent enough to make a difference. Spec what you prefer, IMO.

Friarduck wrote:
2. I am a tailor, but haven't chosen my specialization yet. Is there any WotLK reason to pick one tailoring specialty over another? By that I mean, if I go frozen shadowweave tailoring, is the end of the line for that spec the FSW set? I am assuming that by level 73/74 the FSW set will be junk compared to quest rewards, so if there is no other reason to keep FSW tailoring, should I just abandon tailoring all together?? My other profession is alchemy, so I could pick up herbalism to help that out a little bit. I do have another 375 tailor, so if I did stay with tailoring, I could make which ever specialty set pretty easily. Is there anything worth keeping tailoring for? Since I don't have time to raid, pvp, regular instances and the occasional heroic would probably be the cap for my gear. Is the level 80 BoP tailoring gear worth keeping tailoring for?

Thanks all


These links have what I believe are the crafted 80 sets(or part of them, along with some other crap). I have no idea if the specialization carries over, but it might. Interestingly enough, it seems like they're currently BoE, so I may have the wrong ones. Though I don't think so. As far as FSW, I personally wouldn't bother. Though if you're considering a set, consider making Spellfire instead. As soon as the patch drops, the sets are losing their magic school specificness. And Spellfire is a much higher damage set than FSW.

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=ebonweave
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=moonshroud
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=spellweave
#3 Oct 01 2008 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
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As soon as the patch drops, the sets are losing their magic school specificness.


Seriously? So this means the spellfire stuff will be fine for frost mages? If so, and I make some of this before the expansion, do you know if the stats on it change? In other words, I have the stuff for the belt, should I go ahead and make it? lol. That would be fantastic. :)
#4 Oct 01 2008 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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Trilliandent wrote:
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As soon as the patch drops, the sets are losing their magic school specificness.


Seriously? So this means the spellfire stuff will be fine for frost mages? If so, and I make some of this before the expansion, do you know if the stats on it change? In other words, I have the stuff for the belt, should I go ahead and make it? lol. That would be fantastic. :)


They lose some damage since spell damage(or spellpower, whatever) costs more than school specific damage does in item budget. Look it up on http://wotlk.wowhead.com.
#5 Oct 01 2008 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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My 65 fire mage (soon-to-try-frost-at-66-but-go-arcane/fire-if-I-dislike-frost) is heading very belatedly to end game. So (not in an effort to hijack but perhaps put a slightly different spin on the original question) is it worth it to make the Spellfire set? Do people with knowledge of WotLK gear know whether it will carry us to 80 or become obsolete after a few levels?

Edit: Spelling

Edited, Oct 1st 2008 7:39pm by tuskerdu
#6 Oct 01 2008 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Spellfire is probably pretty safely gonna go obsolete pretty early.
#7 Oct 02 2008 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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They lose some damage since spell damage(or spellpower, whatever) costs more than school specific damage does in item budget. Look it up on http://wotlk.wowhead.com.


It has the same stats as it has now. Anyway, your last post answered my question, le sigh.
#8 Oct 02 2008 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Friarduck wrote:
1. Northrend sounds cold. Does anyone know if the mobs there will be frost resistant or immune? Will being frost specced hamper my early efforts into levels 71 and beyond?


I doubt that the mobs will be immune or even resist a lot of it. Most of the mobs still look like regular animals and bad guys from what I have seen. Again though I am not in beta to check it out for sure but I think you will be fine as a frost post 70.
#9 Oct 02 2008 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Trilliandent wrote:
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They lose some damage since spell damage(or spellpower, whatever) costs more than school specific damage does in item budget. Look it up on http://wotlk.wowhead.com.


It has the same stats as it has now.



Old - 72 Fire/Arcane damage
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21848

New - 58 Spell Power
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=21848

It really doesn't. Smiley: tongue
#10 Oct 02 2008 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
Oh okay, thanks. I searched for spellfire, and was looking at the belt. It had the fire stuff listed. But now it doesn't. -shrug-

I had to google spell power to find out what it means. It seems that it's the same as bonus damage? I'm looking at this, since it was the first google hit: http://thottbot.com/?sp=22749
#11 Oct 02 2008 at 10:12 PM Rating: Good
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Trilliandent wrote:
I had to google spell power to find out what it means. It seems that it's the same as bonus damage? I'm looking at this, since it was the first google hit: http://thottbot.com/?sp=22749


If you're a DPS caster, then Spell Damage getting changed to Spell Power means little to you. It's the same thing for you. However, the meaning is a little different if you're also capable of healing.
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