WotLK - PVP EraseFollow

(NOTE: THIS IS ONLY FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY) It IS old news.

Regarding the honor/PVP erase, I've been hearing tons of lies on my server, so this should clear it up for those asking:

For PVP, all honor AND marks for BG's will be erased in the new expansion.

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043252440&sid=1&pageNo=1

Yes, Marks will be reset too...

Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043252440&sid=1&pageNo=28#552

Again, this is for the Expansion, not the patch. For the patch, new items will be put in (see top link) for those that wanna get something decent before the actual expansion comes out.

Arena Teams:
Once you hit lvl 71, you lose all honor and your team setup. http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5567877160&sid=1

So, if you're grinding, better do something with those marks and honor or you lose it.

Edit... link mistake

Edited, Sep 29th 2008 9:35pm by Stillpist

Edited, Sep 29th 2008 9:36pm by Stillpist

Edited, Sep 29th 2008 9:37pm by Stillpist

Only reply I can give to that is '*ssholes'. Why the marks too? Is it THAT bad to have a small advantage for actually being smart enough to pool some stuff?

I would really like to stop seeing these QQ threads popup in every forum I read.

Hording honor to 80 gives you an unfair advantage over other players. What makes you so special you feel you deserve a nice set of welfare epics on the day that you hit 80 while the rest of the players who don't PvP or do it as regularly as you have to raid/grind out gear from the start? Is your epeen really that much bigger because you can purchase a full set of gear on day one and go beat up on undergeared scrubs?

And before the crying about the people hording money by doing dailies while you were doing BGs, mats for crafting are going to be expensive for a long time until there becomes a steady supply. The only guilds doing heavy raiding on day one are going to be the ones already in BT/SWP. It will be a couple months before raiders get comparable gear to the PvP gear, and thats about how long it will take you to get your honor back up and start buying the stuff.

The truth of the matter is that it is going to be reset, retarded monkeys with half a brain saw it coming, and posting on an internet forum about how much you think it is unfair isn't going to change it.

Awaiting rate down to sub-default...

Edited, Sep 30th 2008 10:45am by AtrophyGFour

LoL. TY.

And to the OP, I am not targetting you with my QQ comment, but rather the inevitable tirade of banter that will be basically a copy and paste of the three page thread in General.

It just amazes me how hard it is for some people the grasp the thought of balance.

I feel adressed Athrophy, let me retort.



First of all, how big an advantage? Having 2 or 3 of your set items earlier than other people on your server? If you don't level to 80 as fast as the real hardcore's out there you are going to end up retrieving your PvP gear at the same time as the real hardcores. It's not like hording some honor is absolutely game breaking. Aside from that, it only gives me an advantage because I took the time to create one for myself. It's like saying raiders have an unfair advantage over non-raiders because they actually take the time to raid.



That entire statement is nonsense. You're insinuating I don't have to grind up all my honor. Hell yes I had to, I just did it at a different time. Actually, my 'time spent' on pooling honor will be larger than somebody who does it at 80 (since higher level BG's grant more honor).



It's not my e-peen that's bigger, it's my time management that's different. I realize I might be having less time to play once WOTLK comes out, so pooling honor now seems like an idea.



That might be the only valid reason to reset honor. But even then, there is no need to reset EVERYTHING, including even my marks. Heck, The real hardcore raiders will have the advantage that they are currently wearing such good gear that they won't replace it until some time into WOTLK. Please replace their gear with S2 then?



No, but you can vent out frustration or anger about it. That's in fact the whole idea of an internet forum, to give opinions on stuff that happens and to discuss them. I actually figured it might've been coming some time ago, so I saved up a bit of honor and waited for official word on the matter before spending it all on epics I no longer really need. Regardless, I was fairly content with the fact that I had 100 marks for 3 out of 4 of the BG's, knowing they wouldn't be much of a problem. But nooo, let's remove those too - for no reason! This basically means there is NO MORE USE AT ALL for me to PvP.



I can't rate, nor do I care about rating. But if you're worth Scholar I expect a challenging reply to this ;)

Edited, Sep 30th 2008 8:07pm by Mozared

Blah blah blah I'm whining because honor and marks get erased so people that are less geared have a chance to obtain honor at 80.

Oh, wait, no I'm not because I have thought that this was coming since S3.

Edit: and Atrophy, you can thank me later, because I just rated you up and got you Sage.

Edited, Sep 30th 2008 11:12am by Theophany

1 of each mark = honor bonus, or did we forget that?

deleting honor without deleting marks is 'tarded people

and the argument of 'im spending my time now to better later' is stupid

that would like if you could farm the new form of BoJ before expansion dropped.... pve doesnt get the advantage of stocking for freebies later on, pvp shouldnt either

the reason t6 can last into expansion is because those raids are hard enough to deserve that kind of gear

sw is hard, afking av isnt, dont act like they deserve the same bonus

Meh...the most I ever PvP'd was to get my trinket for Rage and then my S2 off-hand sword.

At least now I don't have to PvP now so I can have a headstart on getting the PvP swords at 80. I can wait and be lazy.

Hi! Have we met?

I guess not.

I'm RPZip. I'm kind of an ***.

As not to make this thread scroll more than needed, cliff notes quoted above.

Advantage - any state, circumstance, opportunity, or means specially favorable to success, interest, or any desired end

So, starting with 2 or 3 pieces of gear the minute you hit 80 because you had nothing better to do at 70 while waiting for the expansion was sit in BGs and rack up honor is pretty much the very definition of the word "advantage". I applaud your effort in your chosen side of the game, but at the same time, I don't think you have any right to level 80 gear that you earned honor for at level 70. Be a man, buy the level 70 stuff they provide before the release and get to 80 and grind it out again.

Yes, you ground up honor. You got your grind on all through level 70. In order to get level 70 gear. That does not give you the right to go and get a set of gear (or even a couple pieces) at level 80.

"Time management" is a cop out. You thought you were being slick by getting a big pool of honor to save till 80 to get yourself some 1337 purplz. You thought you could beat the system, but the system won.

And yes, a internet forum is a great place to vent your frustrations, but do we need to vent the same frustration in General, Alliance, Horde, and every class forum?



LoL...thanks Theo...I feel special. =)

The bottom line is you get level 70 gear for killing level 70 things. No one is getting anything that is going to make them steamroll any content and instantly get phat lewtz.

In a battle ground you are killing level 70 players. Gratz...here's some honor points and tokens to go spend on some level 70 gear. It might help you when you get to 80.

In a raid you are killing level 70(+) NPCs. Gratz...here's some gold and some badges to spend on some level 70 gear. It might help you when you get to 80.

Notice the PvPers who aren't upset about this are the ones like Theo, who are actually good enough to have a mix of S4 gear that might actually be worth a damn in level 80 PvP, and even if its not then they are good enough to pool the honor back quick enough to get the stuff that is.

Edit: L2italics

Edited, Sep 30th 2008 7:00pm by AtrophyGFour

Back to the BG's, guess we will see more afkers again now they have something to afk for